A $35 Hand Plane?! – Q&A
Your Questions:
00:00 – Start
00:15 – Thoughts on Grizzly’s planes?
01:33 – Coping Sleds
02:49 – Problem with Tung Oil Finish
4:32 – Festool Sanders 3 vs 5 Stroke
6:09 – How to Soundproof the Shop
7:30 – What are your greatest influences?
8:22 – Glue for Vacuum Pressing
9:49 – Filling Epoxy Gaps
10:57 – Is Carbon Filtration Helpful?
12:11 – Is CNC a novelty?
Links:
How to Tune a Cheap Block Plane – https://youtu.be/dFowiriDYbY
Hock Tools for Upgraded Irons – https://www.hocktools.com/
Best Food Safe Finish – It’s Not Mineral Oil – https://youtu.be/l9fqCJ5kJiA
Festool ETC EC 150/5 Sander – https://amzn.to/3Dk3eI4
Kill that Reverb – https://youtu.be/2QydX0hE_p8
Check out David Marks – http://djmarks.com
Filling Knots w/ Epoxy – https://youtu.be/9E-gfpkBL5o
My New Shoes – https://amzn.to/3WHggGn
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Regarding the ETS SC 5 vs 3, I asked my area Festool Mgr about his thought. He actually showed me that if you put a soft pad on a 5, the pad essentially flexes thereby making it essentially a 3. So if you felt you needed a 3, thats a way to "create" one with a 5.
Thanks for continuing the Q&A! Re the soundproofing question, Jason Bent, Bent’s Woodworking and More, had a posting wherein he went into great detail on what he did to reduce sound travelling through walls and ceiling — GREAT detail but excellent! (https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=YIkwN__pJ1w).
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Keep the format, keep the style, your more engaging and interesting because your energy spikes. We like it. . .U like . . .keep it. . . .simple
I enjoyed the content. Looks like it was done in one take and maybe even one breath. Nice voice control.
Rex Krueger talked about one of the Grizzly hand planes a couple of years ago. The video is called Amazing Indian Hand-Planes.
Love these Marc! I’m a long time listener to Wood Talk and these little Q&A shorts are EXACTLY what I need. They remind me of the Morningwood (sic) show you did with Nicole. Keep it up! Thank you!
I am being civil, but I’m also going to contradict you.
The answer to the question about the $35 plane s/b: a) I don’t know, I haven’t seen one; b) based on other cheap planes, it seems likely that purchasing and tuning an old plane might lead to better results; c) one of the better resources of info on shopping for used tools is @Wood by Wright; d) among the better resources for fettling a plane are @Paul Sellers, @Bob Rozaieski and @Dave W. You could have, of course, substituted other YouTube accounts as you preferred, but the above content creators are a credible start if you don’t have better suggestions.
I have enjoyed doing business with Ron Hock and think his products are first class. Having said that, his standard blades are very thick and won’t necessarily fit into and work properly on all Bailey style planes. This, combined with you not knowing the quality of the plane in question (particularly what might need improvement), and the idea that you’re suggesting that installing a blade (which costs significantly more than the plane itself) will lead to an inexpensive and satisfactory solution is (ATMO) influencer malpractice. When someone comes to you for advice, you should either offer “I don’t know” or an answer based on clear knowledge of the case being inquired about. This isn’t what you did. Instead you recommended going ahead with the purchase and adding a further expensive purchase with no realistic basis to expect that it would work.
I think you owe the person an apology and a correction.
Im not sure I agree with everything you do. But one thing that just grew my respect for you immensely is your pronunciation of "template" …. People pronouncing it with a hard A drives me bonkers. Carry on, friend.
I have a collection of Stanley Bailey bench planes. But I was missing the number 7. On impulse I purchased the Grizzly version. It seems to be a very deliberate, careful copy of a Stanley Bailey. I did indeed buy a Hock blade for it. I have to say, the Grizzly very much blends in with the genuine Stanleys. I don’t even think about the difference as I transition between various planes. My Woodcraft bench planes are deluxe and superior in quality. But I do not see myself buying a Woodcraft number 7.
Love it!
Noise reduction.
Glue egg cartons the square tray ones are the best on to the ceiling or wall.
The pyramid shape of the cone gives the noise waves multi surfaces to bounce off.
Hence, reducing the noise traveling though the floor/wall greatly!
Thanks for the Q&A, Marc.
Regarding the filtration question; I’m a doctor (in chemistry) and can say that a carbon filter will help, but won’t eliminate a skin problem. You sort of need to completely remove the irritant from the environment, before you are exposed to it, which is difficult to do if you are in closer proximity to it than a filter is. We use fume cupboards for this reason in our labs. It essentially removes the greater majority of volatile chemicals from the person conducting an experiment. So, in the case of working on aromatic wood species, you almost need a fume cupboard.
Now for some interesting unsolicited trivia: From February this year you won’t be able to wear those red coloured shoes to a particular venue here in Perth, Australia.
Hi, I bought the 14 inch planner from grizzly and I love it! It’s so nice. I think it could do with a better iron and it needed some flattening but after that I have used it on a table and I am working on a bookshelf. It’s very smooth east to use and adjust!
Great format, very helpful and you make it entertaining.
For some great info on soundproofing check out Matt Risinger’s channel, he does a lot of high end construction and has several videos that might be helpful.
On the Grizzly plane, while I don’t have the jack plane, I do have this #4, and it works great. It needed a little effort to flatten the sole, and I’ve put a Caliastro blade (from Amazon) on it, but it works like a champ. Not to direct you off this video, but Rex Krueger has a great video on "Great Indian Hand Planes", and the one I have – the Grizzly H7569 – is one of the planes highlighted in the video.
I own a couple of Grizzly planes, #4 and #6. Not Stanley quality, but pretty decent. Took some work to flatten the soles. Fit and finish isn’t great, but they work just fine.
Thanks for this format of videos. I definitely appreciate it and get good tips and tricks out of it.
00:00 – Start
00:15 – Thoughts on Grizzly’s planes?
01:33 – Coping Sleds
02:49 – Problem with Tung Oil Finish
4:32 – Festool Sanders 3 vs 5 Stroke
6:09 – How to Soundproof the Shop
7:30 – What are your greatest influences?
8:22 – Glue for Vacuum Pressing
9:49 – Filling Epoxy Gaps
10:57 – Is Carbon Filtration Helpful?
12:11 – Is CNC a novelty?
Definition of fettle: trim or clean the rough edges of (a metal casting or a piece of pottery) before firing.
Digging this Q and A man. Keep doing this every once in a while
I like these videos.
@AvidCNC wyd lol
Very, very, very good. (Three stars is the best) Keep them coming please!
I have a handful of the Grizzly hand planes. You can fill a plane till with Grizzlys for the cost of a pair of top shelf planes, & for good reason. They need a FULL tune-up prior to use. Sole & frog flattening, chip breaker sharpening, handle tightening. Once you’ve put the time into them, they’ll work just fine. Though the blades do dull fairly quickly, they will be enough to get going with.
Ehat show did you play a doctor in? Would like to see it
Thanks
on charcoal filters. i think they are a great idea in shops where you have to work with others. those bottom burps can be horrendous in an enclosed space.
These Q&A’s are very nice, you give your honest opinion and these are hard to come by these days!
Couldn’t agree more with you on the CNC-debate. If I would have the budget (and the space in my shop) I’d get one a.s.a.p. just to make templates easier 😆 ( a bit like Chris from Four Ees Furniture? although he does seem to use the CNC more to make the actual pieces nowadays)
I really enjoy this new segment. Please continue to do these. I may even come up with a good question one of these days.
Really enjoy this format of video! Hope the view counts are good enough for them to continue.
I got a 5½ from wood river and I love it thing.
I really like the Q&A format. No particular questions right now, but I enjoy listening to your answers to other’s questions.
Love your shoes! I Have some just like it. ❤️
Love the RF vid. On the CNC thing, my take is that these machines are more of a production tool. I was a production carpenter millworker for thirty years "cabinets, panel systems, trim". he said trim lol. But when I came home my passion was old school carpentry. I have to admit that a lot of production techniques rubbed off on me though. Old habits are sometime hard to break.
Interesting about the amount of oil that we put onto wood. In my past I use to do oil painting and a good practice was thick on thin, ie your first coat would be turps/paint and slowly buld up the coats until you end up putting pure oil paint on top. When I did that I never had cracking developing.
Out of old habits I tend to do the same with oil on wood and I’ve never had a problem
First, love the format. It is a nice change of pace. Second, you are rockin’ the shoes, dude! Third, gIve Duggee a big butt scratch from me!
4:00 I use shellac-based sanding sealer as a first coat. Helps me limit the volume of finish needed to get an even second coat.
The thing about the CNC, is that you would be hard pressed to find a professional cabinetry or millwork shop that doesn’t have one in 2023.
But that’s because the person-hours for cutting an entire lift of plywood is probably 10 times faster and more accurate with a CNC than a human. you can also do all your detail machining with the CNC too before it comes off the bed. Plus, it’s *significantly*( safer between lifting sheets of plywood and the proximity to spinning wheels of death.
But if you’re running a home workshop- I wouldn’t sweat it. They’re nice, but your ROI on it, whether money or satisfaction is not likely to equal what you spend on it.
thanks Mark always appreciateyour thoughts.
Quick note from the Safety Police, get that Fire Extinguisher off the floor and onto the wall in an easy to see and access location. After all you are in a Fire Station (This from a former Firefighter’s son.) 🤕
the Wood Whisperer played a doctor on tv ! When ?
$34.95… maybe worth a try! but also prepare yourself for extreme disappointment 🤷♂
Nice shoes!! Please keep up the Q&As.
David Marks looks a lot like Paul Rudd at first glance!!!
Thanks Mark, very good video. Scott
I want to be a feddler when I grow up.. I’m 63 so I may not have much time to grow up.. I paid around 35 bucks for my old Stanley’s on ebay before the alleged collectors jacked up the prices.. Saw an absolute garbage plane at a antique store for $300.. wood rotted and cracked, cast iron completely pitted and rusty, dented and without a handy crowbar and a bench vise it’ll probably rust completely to dust sooner than later.. Amazing the junk people think is valuable..
As someone who works in acoustics and does woodworking as a hobby it is so refreshing to find someone who understands the difference between panels on the wall and ‘soundproofing’! There is a lot of garbage spouted on the internet in regards to acoustics so it’s always nice to find someone putting out content that is actually helpful.
I use carbon filters on the air filter in my basement workshop. I’m reluctant to suggest there’s any health benefit, but it definitely helps with odors from finishes and solvents. I don’t buy carbon-impregnated pleated filters. Instead, I buy a roll of carbon filter media, and when I’m painting or finishing, I turn the filter on high. It’s very affordable and I highly recommend it for anybody with a workshop inside their home.