50 Comments

  1. Tad Adamski on July 31, 2023 at 3:39 pm

    Installation from Megadyne Accu-link belt:
    "Be sure that the belt has the tabs on the inner side: the belt has to run with the tabs oppositely facing the running direction". Wrong direction might be why it’s breaking tabs and whining! 🤔
    PS: Having a tab break on a belt running backwards can be dangerous. This is a big reason to install correctly.



  2. Dennis on July 31, 2023 at 3:41 pm

    I love how clean your shop is



  3. Toaster on July 31, 2023 at 3:41 pm

    Link belts are great as a temporary fix to hold you over for a while until you can get a proper sized belt. Look into getting yourself AX or BX belts. They’re the cogged type that shouldn’t have much of a problem with deforming.



  4. Rick Olson on July 31, 2023 at 3:42 pm

    maybe you’re a bit to picky over the noise. a whine?…..in a wood shop?………….



  5. Lennon Groover on July 31, 2023 at 3:45 pm

    My homart window fan that is



  6. NMranchhand on July 31, 2023 at 3:49 pm

    I’m glad you posted this and I’m glad I caught it. Observations over time and after some thought are valuable things. Thanks.



  7. Larry Ohara on July 31, 2023 at 3:50 pm

    If your link belts are breaking you got other problems. My link belt is over 20 years old.



  8. Chris Graham on July 31, 2023 at 3:50 pm

    Your right about the rubber belts taking on the curvature of the pulley if the motor isn’t run for a few days. I find the problem is much worse during winter if your shop is not constantly heated and they sit idle in the cold. Before radial tires, the old rubber/nylon tires would flatten on the bottom if the vehicle wasn’t moved for a few days in winter and you’d get a thump…thump…thump as you drove down the road for the first two kilometers. The link belts are a solution for this problem but the solution comes at five times the cost. I’m going to try the "gator style" belt, with the ribs on the inside, hoping it might be the best of both worlds.



  9. Raphael Frommer on July 31, 2023 at 3:50 pm

    If a flexible, fresh and affordable v-belt becomes problematic because it takes a permanent set when idle for long periods of time, it seems the solution is clear: Design something to unweight the belt when the saw is idle.

    If you return to the saw some long period of time later and forget that the belt is untensioned, that harmless fact will become obvious the first time you turn it on. Seems to me you can’t lose.



  10. James Tipton on July 31, 2023 at 3:52 pm

    Sorry but these belts are more than worth their cost. If you run it in the correct direction and are not worried about the windage noise you will find the belt runs smoother. This guy has no clue. Also if you are running any belt on a POS saw it will not perform as well. This guy must be a professor. Maybe not he still has his fingers.



  11. woodworking with DJ LeBlanc on July 31, 2023 at 3:53 pm

    used a link belt on my general Int drill press and it really reduced the vibration , to me was worth it to get rid of the vibration , been using it for over 5 years, seen alot of use and the belt still look new , never have broken a link. Using it on a table saw where saw dust and debris would get into the links would definitely shorten its life. And make sure their installed going in the right direction



  12. BeKnown ByYourFruits on July 31, 2023 at 3:54 pm

    There’s no need for this type of belt for the application he’s using for.



  13. sojournsojourntraveler 1 on July 31, 2023 at 3:55 pm

    I have been considering making the equipment to make my own link belt.
    Link belt also helps to determine what link a missing belt needs to be.



  14. Shain Andrews on July 31, 2023 at 3:57 pm

    Just curious. You want to address the link belt running the wrong direction? To error is human after all.



  15. pmailkeey on July 31, 2023 at 3:57 pm

    What an interesting and peculiar video !
    I suspect the whine from the link belt is down to the air being driven by the bits of the links that stick out. There are several designs of link belt and some will likely be quieter than others.
    As for parking causing a belt to assume a shape, our old lathe (Myford ML7) has a belt tension lever – such that when the lathe is not in use, the belt tension can be released via this lever so allowing the belt to relax around the pulleys rather than be tightly round them.
    As for belt tension maintained by a fixed motor, the tensioner needs to be between the motor and the driven shaft – so when the saw blade is lowered, the motor is mechanically moved by the tensioner and not simply by gravity.



  16. Greg & Maggie Lipscomb on July 31, 2023 at 3:59 pm

    Nether are we….



  17. Mike Studmuffin on July 31, 2023 at 4:01 pm

    What’s a good rubber belt and what dimensions do I need for replacement?



  18. e.lt.minichaniqua bitrick on July 31, 2023 at 4:01 pm

    i use link belts for the drive on my dirt bike and its perfect i also use them in my truck and my power supply witch is a jacks-haft alternator and motor mounted in a frame on the power supply the belt goes over 3 pullies and it runs about 40 hours a week and it still hasn’t failed i think link belts do best if you keep tension on them i think the slack is your biggest problem maybe spring load the motor



  19. Critical Look on July 31, 2023 at 4:02 pm

    *You’ve got your belt inside-out.*
    .



  20. Kazy Kamakaze on July 31, 2023 at 4:03 pm

    You do realize that v belts are made of rubber and rubber ages. Try using some rubber treatment products that are for cars on your belt, will make it last longer as well and keep it’s properties for longer.



  21. rmufb71 on July 31, 2023 at 4:03 pm

    Your belt is putting stress on your system because you took a link out, and didnt bother to check belt tension You are most likely over tension . Also just like any other belt if the whole thing is worn, replace the whole thing. Misusing a tool doesn’t make it a bad tool.



  22. Bandit Quest on July 31, 2023 at 4:04 pm

    The Link Belts are great for a Emergency back-up belt, in case one of your V belts ever breaks. If you were to keep a back-up V belt for every V belt you have on your Car, Lawn Equip, Power Tools, etc. you will have a lot of V belts in your cabinet. If you Keep a Link Belt on hand just for emergency’s, WITH one long Link Belt YOU will ALWAYS BE COVERED.



  23. sam p-w on July 31, 2023 at 4:06 pm

    I didn’t know what a link belt was. When I saw the thumbnail, I assumed that was a lego model!



  24. Unbannable on July 31, 2023 at 4:07 pm

    Solution: take the belt off if you are not going to use it for a period of time. you are welcome.



  25. Ray Lopez on July 31, 2023 at 4:08 pm

    I think the link belt is suppose to be used for more industrious use, where a company would need many various sized belts, and they switch from that to a couple different gauge link belts.



  26. Richard Butt on July 31, 2023 at 4:08 pm

    I have a serpentine belt on a full size Ridgid table saw and I love it.



  27. Aereaux on July 31, 2023 at 4:09 pm

    Yes



  28. Patrick Perry on July 31, 2023 at 4:09 pm

    The problem with using ideal springs or bungee cords (not an ideal spring constant) is that they vary greatly depending on length, diameter, material, number of stands (bungee), etc. A Harbor Freight link belt is probably going to be about the same variability for a given run of a design. The other methods you would have more variable results. Also additional tension on the motor might cause more "set" in a standard belt during extended periods of downtime, whether by a spring, bungee cord, or counterweight.



  29. Eric Ross on July 31, 2023 at 4:11 pm

    Would bigger pulleys help if you still keep it 1:1? Just a thought



  30. Chris Griffith on July 31, 2023 at 4:14 pm

    Could soaking a belt, otherwise "conditioning" a belt help? I would’t know how to "condition" a belt or even what to do that with… but…



  31. Chris K on July 31, 2023 at 4:15 pm

    There is a reason table saws come with a riving knife. It takes less than a second for your saw to remove several of your fingers.



  32. Jerry Hudson on July 31, 2023 at 4:15 pm

    Does the direction of travel on the link belts affect the noise?



  33. Lennon Groover on July 31, 2023 at 4:15 pm

    I wish I had found out about these belts before my homart got broken



  34. Olfoundryman on July 31, 2023 at 4:18 pm

    I would be for putting larger diameter pulleys on both ends. Making belts go around pulleys that small is very hard on the belts and may be why their life is short….Martin



  35. Ron Yerke on July 31, 2023 at 4:21 pm

    Does flipping the link belt make a difference in the sound they induce? I’m just wondering if the tabs leading into the direction of rotation might be louder than if they follow the rotation. Do you still have that link belt?



  36. bare nekid on July 31, 2023 at 4:21 pm

    I simply pop the belt Off ….when I’m not using the saw. Takesonly seconds and prevents the problem entirely.



  37. skunkjobb on July 31, 2023 at 4:22 pm

    I got myself my first link-belt for my small metal lathe yesterday and compared to the old rubber V-belt, I’m very satisfied with the reduced vibrations. I use it so little so I think (hope) it will last many years.



  38. Russell Stephan on July 31, 2023 at 4:22 pm

    Application of a component is always key…

    A linked belt on my compressor made a *huge* difference in noise and overall vibration. Linked belts also function extremely well in a VFD converted Jet drill press.

    Of course, both of these shop tools are relatively low-speed devices.



  39. rmsb on July 31, 2023 at 4:24 pm

    Link belts are only good for emergency purposes



  40. Maine Guide on July 31, 2023 at 4:25 pm

    The sound of a table saw means there’s possible progress happening with good things to come. It seems like you may stress a little bit too much about things that really aren’t that important, or you really have nothing else to do. Don’t become an anal retentive carpenter that cryovac wraps waste wood and shrink-wraps sawdust. Don’t be that guy.



  41. Paul Ledford on July 31, 2023 at 4:26 pm

    For years I used the red version sold by Rockler on a big Craftsman tablesaw, and found it to be a huge reduction in vibration and noise. Sold that saw when my contractor brother gifted me a used Delta Contractor Saw. Didn’t immediately change the belt even though it was vibrating. It ended up vibrating the motor out of the mounts and slinging that 50# motor about 15’… which as exciting. I have now placed the green Harbor Freight version of the belt on my saw (and repaired the other damage from the motor mishap), and it absolutely hums. Before, if I left items like a tape measure or push sticks sitting on the saw while it was running they’d vibrate off in a few seconds. Now, they don’t move at all. When comparing notes with my brother, we determined the belt that failed was likely the original equipment- about 40 years old! Learned my lesson!



  42. Chris Griffith on July 31, 2023 at 4:27 pm

    Another question: Could removing material from the sides of the link belt help to improve performance the same way getting a smaller width belt does?



  43. Russell218 on July 31, 2023 at 4:27 pm

    Holy shit, that green saw in the background is made of WOOD?! Buddy, you just blew my mind. A+



  44. Casey Revoir on July 31, 2023 at 4:29 pm

    This might be what those are, but a ‘fractional horsepower belt’ might help. They are covered in a fabric, and generally much more bendy.



  45. Greg D. on July 31, 2023 at 4:29 pm

    While vibration can be bad and an indication of problems. He is way to anal about it. It is a crappy old Craftsman Contractor’s saw. Nuff said!



  46. Bob Smith on July 31, 2023 at 4:29 pm

    This is the only belt I use.



  47. tom hall on July 31, 2023 at 4:31 pm

    You’re in the minority with your opinion. Overwhelming consensus that link belts are quieter and smoother.



  48. Fred Young on July 31, 2023 at 4:32 pm

    Thanks for making the comparisons in the video.



  49. Bill K. on July 31, 2023 at 4:33 pm

    Maybe you’re overthinking it…



  50. PJ White on July 31, 2023 at 4:34 pm

    you got the link belt inside out