Budget Titan table saw + UPGRADES

Budget Titan table saw + UPGRADES

The Titan table saw fromScrewfix had a bunch of decent reviews, but we must remember that it’s one of the cheapest on the market so there will be compromises.

I’ve made some improvements to mine, so hopefully it’ll help inspire others.

#screwfix #tablesaw #budget

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Contact me via email: deanswoodworkjourney@gmail.com

40 Comments

  1. Neil Smith on June 14, 2023 at 1:15 pm

    Second attempt at a comment first one a bit rude apparently.
    Just bought one of these saws and used for the first time today.
    First cut was measured with a digital vernier calliper length of cut .5 of a meter width of cut 25 mm thickness of material 18 mm .
    Saw cut very smoothly excellent cut edge clean variation along length was .2 of a mm this using the standard stock fence which goes against what this video is suggesting also ease of operation of the supplied fence was brilliant where as this modification fence looks poor and it also looks to big and bulky.
    I think there are over 200 reviews on the Screwfix website of this saw and can’t say I’ve seen any reviews reporting problems with the fence.
    I can only presume you have not assembled it correctly.
    It’s early days but so far I would not hesitate to recommend THIS HIGHLY Accurate brilliant saw.
    If you go back and read the instructions manual and assemble correctly you don’t need to make a fence the one supplied is brilliant accurate and easy to use.



  2. Trident DIY on June 14, 2023 at 1:17 pm

    I don’t have a workshop, all my tools have to be portable for outdoor projects when its dry. Do you think this can be used as a portable table saw? My track saw isn’t the best for jointing tasks really 🙂



  3. tonyf68 on June 14, 2023 at 1:18 pm

    I came across your channel because of this video and it’s always good to find another Uk woodwork channel to subscribe to! 👍 I don’t have a table saw but have thought about buying the Titan one in the past, but I don’t have enough space for a table saw at the moment. If I was gonna buy one I’d go for the Evolution Rage 5s, for occasional use (hobby woodworker). Your video about this Titan saw was really interesting, useful and well presented. Nice one!



  4. John Hopkins on June 14, 2023 at 1:19 pm

    Looks similar to my Einhell table saw. However I could have played Crown Green Bowls on the table. I made my own table and fence from 18mm Plywood. Not perfect but it works



  5. Paul Leate on June 14, 2023 at 1:20 pm

    great video very helpful, did you cut your riving knife down? the original riving knife is higher than the blade thus using a cross cutting jig would be imposible, would very much appreciate your advise. many thanks in advance.



  6. Lew Farnsworth on June 14, 2023 at 1:21 pm

    Great review and mods , thanks really helpful video



  7. Woodwork Journey on June 14, 2023 at 1:22 pm

    I have absolutely no idea why I kept calling plywood MDF, slowly losing my mind I think



  8. Cindy Harrison on June 14, 2023 at 1:22 pm

    I’ve got the same issue with blade movement. Very helpful



  9. kwakkers68 on June 14, 2023 at 1:22 pm

    IF money was no object, I’d be looking at battery TSs.
    As we’ve learned lately – corporate owned energy supply is no friend to public good. I doubt the
    present spikes are going to be a one off.
    On that basis – the electricity draw for charging batteries vs the use of something with a 1500 – 2000w
    motor is thrown into stark relief.
    Going down the battery route, at least for the better quality machines, is a considerable expense,
    probably beyond the means of a lot of people, but it would mean future proofing.
    + you can often find ‘after market’ batteries which are much cheaper, and nowadays
    pretty good quality



  10. Steve Hough on June 14, 2023 at 1:24 pm

    Interesting video…you have opened up a can of worms here! I’ve had my Titan saw for more than two years now. I think it was £99.99 but went down to £80 for a while. I think the model has been updated as yours does look slightly different with a better build quality and the table looks better (I have additional support legs on the flimsy side extension panels for instance and the table wasn’t flat until I spent an afternoon using a rubber hammer and a straight edge on it). I too have made a similar base for the unit (it looks the twin of yours, are we related? 🙂 . I use it to store push blocks, finger boards additional blade etc.) but I think I’m going to box it in and put a door on it to keep out the dust. I might even add a dust tray under the unit. Looks like you may have cut down the original crown guard plate to make your riving knife – quite a standard mod. I kept the original and made a riving knife one from 2mm aluminium sheet just in case – it works fine, even when I’m ripping down 8′ and 4" fence post for legs to rustic benches. I want to use the crown guard again sometime as the dust extraction isn’t too bad, useful when cutting MDF in my little 12’x 8′ shop . The table sled I made used acrylic runners and works fine with a little machine wax. Never been happy with the mitre gauge – not accurate and slops all over the place. I tried putting aluminium tape on it but that didn’t help the fit. In the end I made a mitre attachment on another table sled (sled with a triangle on it…duh! ) that works well. I suggest you make a pallet sled (flat board on a runner with a little fence at the top that is cut level with the blade) this is most useful for safely cutting flat panels that are wider than they are long – you can also use it to make angled cuts of different degrees. I agree the Titan fence is a bit flimsy and may tail out at the end of a cut but it seems OK at the start of a cut where it really matters. Once the teeth hit the wood in the right place the rest is pretty much history. Having said that I really like your fence solution (you can add fences for spline cutting or mortise tendons to make a cut. Nice one! Thanks for the video and I hope this feedback helps!
    P.S.
    I now also now have a Rage Evolution 5 saw. It’s good but it has it’s own problems!



  11. Glyn Luff on June 14, 2023 at 1:29 pm

    Ah you rear movement. I have just broken mine up as motor exploded when cutting 2 in old oak. The back back and front swing bearing are similar and very sturdy. Check the plastic retaining block is secured properly by two cross head screws and the rear assembly Allen screws are up solid.
    For replacement don’t bother unless you are going to spend well over £300. The new machines of this format with a variety of manufacturers labels are heavily production engineered and not of the substance of this one. You can pay up to £220 and all you will buy is an expensive blade in a poorly and sometimes rather unsafe design. Their is a stability issue with many hence the extra leg extension on the back. No rear outfeed table as this would overpower the leg extensions. The blade plate in plastic cannot be remade as the new hinges get in the way and the moulding is thus too thin. The blade rear guide whose name temporarily deserts me, is flexible and if the upper dust extractor is fitted can interrupt flow of work. The fence is difficult to lock adequately and the angle guide of vague ability. All this can be solved with work and knowledge but it is being sold to a diy market where people are not necessarily safety oriented. Here I speak having been an ex production engineer and a safety officer. Hold on to what you have and then spend at a substantially higher level.



  12. Judith Marshall on June 14, 2023 at 1:32 pm

    Thank you for doing this video, the fence that you made looks so much more reliable than the awful one that comes with it! Hopefully with your upgrades I’ll be able to cut a genuinely straight line!! 🤣
    I don’t know if my blade moves with the dust port (I will be checking this out) but my riving knife does go off to the left. It is causing me a major headache as it stops the work piece from moving past the blade. I’ve tried popping some shims in under the bolts but doesn’t cure it. 😩



  13. Barry Baker on June 14, 2023 at 1:32 pm

    so i have one of these saws and im new to wood working so im going to try and do what you did and make a cross cut sled



  14. kwakkers68 on June 14, 2023 at 1:35 pm

    It’s a pity the manufacturers don’t put a little bit more thought into the design and QC aspects
    of their products. Granted, they’re cheap – but how much might some improvements eat into
    profit margins? And once made, any improvements would only bolster market share – more profits.
    This is surely short-sighted on their part.
    Particularly when we factor in what they will be paying for labour (often dubious ethics) and
    raw materials.



  15. Steve poston on June 14, 2023 at 1:36 pm

    OMG Dean, how you doing ol chap. You still vaping?



  16. Paul Clarke on June 14, 2023 at 1:38 pm

    I really like your upgrades, I have an Einhell table saw, which is similar to the Titan. I have some of the same issues especially the mitre slots and the rip fence, I made a bracket which I bolt to the outside of the table and a threaded bar is used to lightly press against the back of the fence to stop it moving away from the blade. I have made a sled similar to yours, very useful. One thing to watch out for with these budget priced saws is that the blade supplied may not be as sharp as it could be, I had my blade sharpened lately and the difference in the performance of the saw is amazing. Good saw for the price despite it’s flaws. Happy new year and keep up the good work. Paul.



  17. xxnonstopdancingxx on June 14, 2023 at 1:38 pm

    Thanks for this video, convinced me to feel the pain only once and buy a Dewalt 7485. The £300 price difference looks like good value to me 👍🏼



  18. Chapman WW on June 14, 2023 at 1:39 pm

    I managed to get an Aldi table saw in a sale for £19. It’s terrible but then I think "yeah but I only paid £19".



  19. Dovetails Notnails on June 14, 2023 at 1:39 pm

    Good video mate. I looked at these before buying and the fence and mitre gauge really put me off! Same issue with the slightly more expensive evolution. I agree with you though for the money, it’s a pretty good buy. Excellent mods too! 👍🏼 I ended up spending a little more on a metabo in the end (not that much more actually as it was a returned stock deal, and I had to fix the tilt mech but it works a dream now!). Btw If you need a mitre saw, the evolution is VERY good for the money. 👍🏼



  20. little green man. on June 14, 2023 at 1:40 pm

    Really enjoyed the video, I have had my Titan table saw now for over two years. Yes they are some issues, I did how ever really like your upgrades. I would highly recommend a digital angle finder as the guages aren’t to be trusted. Taking it off the metal stand and building your own I’m not sure why I didn’t think of that. Great idea. I’ve made beds, garden furniture and just starting to make a book case. I would highly recommend and the only other thing I did was to upgrade the blade. Great job. 👍



  21. Simon Reynolds on June 14, 2023 at 1:45 pm

    Thank you for posting this video, I have had a titan table saw for the last five years and have been looking at addressing the issues you dealt with, especially the fence, for some time and your video has given me the spark to do so, Thank you Dean, take care and happy new year to you.



  22. da Gobbo Grotto on June 14, 2023 at 1:45 pm

    Hey man, great video. Quick question – where did you get the riving knife for this? The one that came with my saw is too high and has the blade guard mounts on it which are annoying …



  23. William Kilpatrick on June 14, 2023 at 1:48 pm

    Good video. I bought mine 4 years ago and got it from screwfix for £65 as the box was all bashed. I asked if it was damaged and the girl said that it was only the box but if there was any problems just return it for a refund. I have been using it regularly and like yourself made a sledge for cross cutting. I tried making a zero clearance plate but after a while I fitted a complete 10mm laminated MDF top ( not ply ) ha ha which makes the fence slide very easily after a rub down with some candle wax. I just lift the top off when I need to tilt the blade or use the sledge. I made a fence similar to your one and it works almost perfectly, give or take 0.02 degrees. Which is acceptable to me. I made a small table for my router similar to the one you have on your saw and after seeing yours I might make one for the saw. As you say the legs take up a lot of space but it is very stable and I was afraid I might lose the stability. Great video with a lot of ideas.



  24. timhankin on June 14, 2023 at 1:51 pm

    I bought this saw a few weeks ago having never owned or used a table before. I used it today fir 1st time and found the exact problem with the fence. It really frustrated me. After watching this video I’m going to build a new fence. Thanks. I’m also going to build a sled too. The slots are very shallow how did you get the runners that thin to accommodate?



  25. Phils Workshop on June 14, 2023 at 1:52 pm

    Enjoyed your vid have subscribed to your channel I had the same saw for the price and once you do the tweaks it can be a reasonable saw I’ve upgraded to the evolution rage5s again once it’s been set up it’s great for me well worth the money



  26. Collette Dale on June 14, 2023 at 1:53 pm

    Hi, thanks for sharing these designs, I’m new to using a table saw, done a little simple woodwork before & im having a go at making the fence.. what length bar did you use please? And what other hardware did you need to install the bar? Many thanks 😊



  27. MACLADILLY on June 14, 2023 at 1:56 pm

    Excellent! Thankyou for the review and for your upgrade ideas. I’m looking at buying a table saw and your video really helped me.



  28. PZ 123 on June 14, 2023 at 1:58 pm

    Great video; you should have a constant flow of people finding you trying to overcome the titan terrible fence issue, that’s how I got here!



  29. Dazington F on June 14, 2023 at 2:01 pm

    Brilliant, really helpful. Haven’t found much use for this table saw as I need to cut accurately. Definitely going to make some of the upgrades you’ve suggested here and try again. Many thanks!



  30. MIKEBOLT on June 14, 2023 at 2:01 pm

    cool video



  31. Sean Twomey on June 14, 2023 at 2:01 pm

    Hi dude. Great video. Had this saw for ages and it never gives any kind of a true cut with the stuff that comes with it in the box. I had made myself a VERY crude mitre sled which kinda worked but like you said on your video, the slots are not exactly easy to work with either. Could you made a 45° angle block clamp to go onto your the sled you’ve already made perhaps? I’m gonna give yours a go anyway 🙂 Thank you.



  32. Ralph Fell on June 14, 2023 at 2:02 pm

    I have the same saw and have mounted it in a bench and out a 6mm MDF top on top of the steel table with aluminium channels fitted ( purchased from Axminster Tools ) This also gives you plenty of thickness to make a decent zero clearance blade plate.
    Ten out of ten for keeping the riving knife and the mod to it.!!



  33. Hugh Marcus on June 14, 2023 at 2:04 pm

    Some great accessories you’ve made there. Aside from the problems with the fence, the old Titan saw is capable of serious work.
    I’ve abused mine no end.
    I’ve run loads of 8×4 sheets of plastic through it & cut up loads of free pallets for the wood burner.

    It’s probably not the most accurate if you’re doing precise work but I think it’s ok for the price.
    Saxton Blades are much better value than Screwfix for replacement blades.



  34. Eaglestu66 on June 14, 2023 at 2:05 pm

    Nice one mate always clear and practical 👌



  35. chris0147 on June 14, 2023 at 2:06 pm

    I got the same saw table as you have got, but I’ve been told that when I cut the woods it get very loud. Can I ask do you know how I can reduce the noise? I’ve changed the blade but it make no difference.



  36. Mark Dinmore on June 14, 2023 at 2:06 pm

    Hi I like your video I have a titan table saw I like your upgrades lots and I will be making them I have one question your Wheels on the bottom do you have 4 lockable wheels or just 2 thank you for your help and videos Mark



  37. Neil Smith on June 14, 2023 at 2:08 pm

    Just a update on my earlier comment after making a whole host of different width and length cuts all I can say the supplied fence is brilliant and certainly no need for any modifications which mirrors the reviews on the Screwfix website.
    Also given the price of this saw I think it is fantastic value and your review is extremely harsh on a brilliant solid accurate table saw



  38. Curiouschimp on June 14, 2023 at 2:10 pm

    Any chance you can make videos showing how you made the upgrades step by step?



  39. Vincent Gormley on June 14, 2023 at 2:12 pm

    Hey mate, first time viewer enjoyed the video. I have seen a titan table saw second hand crazy cheap and am trying to work out whether to pull the trigger on it. I appears to have a mega rusty blade, I assume they are pretty easy to change? I will subscribe, good work.



  40. Philip D on June 14, 2023 at 2:12 pm

    I am about to do the same with my table saw which is of similarly poor design but – can’t expect miracles for 120e machine. Thanks for the tips.