Choosing A Bevel Angle And Other Life Changing Choices

Choosing A Bevel Angle And Other Life Changing Choices

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Choosing the best bevel angle can be daunting for the beginner. there are many reasons to choose a higher angle or a lower angel and there are reasons to have one bevel angle to rule them all.

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49 Comments

  1. Akos Lukacs on August 2, 2023 at 4:18 pm

    I will try 90° next time in the shop 🙂



  2. Hazel Birch on August 2, 2023 at 4:19 pm

    That was really helpful and so well explained. I love your easy going no stress attitude. Thanks



  3. curiousgeorge555 on August 2, 2023 at 4:20 pm

    Great vid! Did you make that gouge roll or buy it?



  4. Wolf Paw Armoury on August 2, 2023 at 4:21 pm

    So in summary: It don’t matter. None o’ dis matters.



  5. J Go on August 2, 2023 at 4:22 pm

    I use the angle that cuts the wood 👍



  6. JRK on August 2, 2023 at 4:22 pm

    which angle I sharpen to ? the sharp one.



  7. Nicholas Cook on August 2, 2023 at 4:23 pm

    I learned to freehand sharpen as kid with pocketknives in boy scouts and have always freehand sharpened because it is so much easier and faster, i can also sharpen somethin without havin to pay a lot of attention to it because my wrist has trained to the angle i generally use



  8. Terri Stroh on August 2, 2023 at 4:27 pm

    I’m definitely not here to argue. I enjoyed your explanation of the various angles and is something to consider. I also appreciate the simplicity of Rex Kruger’s 25 degrees across the board.



  9. Orellin Vvardengra on August 2, 2023 at 4:28 pm

    I put to much pressure when I sharpen. I use whetstones because it was cheap and found a good deal. Softened skin and iron is not fun as I’ve cut my finger tips plenty of times on the dull edges. It’s like welding, I grip the nozzle/stinger to hard. Not sure why but I’ve been getting more conscious of it. Would help if I wasn’t enjoying a brew while doing it most likely, or good music.



  10. Alan Swaffield on August 2, 2023 at 4:28 pm

    The angle I sharpen to is the that looks about right angle. Seems to work ok so far.



  11. J B on August 2, 2023 at 4:28 pm

    Good one James. I have cheat sheets for my tools that I have mostly memorized hung up by my bench. Magnetic angle finder gets me in the ball park when in doubt. Bottom line I’m just waiting for automation… self sharpening tools.



  12. AN PR on August 2, 2023 at 4:29 pm

    Good one! Very well e explained.



  13. Mike Umpstead on August 2, 2023 at 4:29 pm

    Well done! Always appreciate your content and approach. Related to this subject, I have come to respect “to each their own”. I landed on 27 degrees about 10 years ago and use it for chisels, plane irons, bevel up, bevel down, with success in domestic softwoods and all hardwoods. It has proven to provide me with acceptable durability and it is easily replicable, quickly, in my shop. Giving me the confidence to get the same performance, sharpening after sharpening. Enjoy making – “sawdust and shavings”, your way!



  14. tommy roberts on August 2, 2023 at 4:30 pm

    I thought at 1 point you switched to a 35゚ on your chisels?



  15. Richard Swaby on August 2, 2023 at 4:31 pm

    I like the maths joke on your t-shirt.



  16. David Heglin on August 2, 2023 at 4:32 pm

    Keeping it in perspective. Thank you. It’s about the wood curls!



  17. MartianHeadquarters on August 2, 2023 at 4:35 pm

    where did you get that fantastic t-shirt?



  18. Brads Workbench on August 2, 2023 at 4:37 pm

    Needed this video 4 years ago 😂🤙



  19. Ian Pearse on August 2, 2023 at 4:40 pm

    I suppose you could use the dad angle but they are always right! LOL. But maybe we need a more complex solution! Great video James. My ribs are hurting reading your tee shirt.



  20. Mimi Kay on August 2, 2023 at 4:40 pm

    This Video needs more attention. Great as everytime



  21. greg preston on August 2, 2023 at 4:40 pm

    25° … got it. 🤔😉🙃



  22. Dustin Shaver on August 2, 2023 at 4:42 pm

    Very good video I’ve been wondering about this for awhile because I’m a beginner. Thank you.



  23. Darin on August 2, 2023 at 4:42 pm

    I would like to see a chart (or rudimentary spreadsheet) of the angles you have on each tool…thanks



  24. Corin Ehmer on August 2, 2023 at 4:43 pm

    I like to keep it simple too. It’s worth mentioning that steel type can be a factor. Stanley tool steel seems to do ok with most angles. But I have found with A2 steel that it does better with steeper per angles.



  25. john hiemstra on August 2, 2023 at 4:44 pm

    Thank you for this video. I once asked a woodworker, why he always felt safe in the shop, even though he worked with sharp things. He replied simply, "I have a guardian angle!"



  26. Tablier on August 2, 2023 at 4:49 pm

    That’s why I wanted to practice freehand sharpening, to free myself from the search of the perfect angle and complicated jigs … Now I think I have enough skills to start thinking about different angles from my tools. Nice tips and ideas as always 🙂



  27. Dylan Neely on August 2, 2023 at 4:53 pm

    Does anyone else see two birds in the thumbnail? 😂



  28. Mike Beacom on August 2, 2023 at 4:55 pm

    42! Oh, wait, that number is taken…



  29. MC's Creations on August 2, 2023 at 4:56 pm

    Excellent tips, James! Thanks! 😃
    But yeah, whoever says sqrt(-4) isn’t equal to 2… Is a person without imagination. 😬
    Anyway, stay safe there with your family! 🖖😊



  30. Rob Weir on August 2, 2023 at 4:58 pm

    That’s a really helpful video James – as usual, it’s all about personal preference and it’s not a case of saying "you MUST" – I’m more of a carver than a woodworker really, and so the tendency is to try and keep everything razor sharp – but understanding that angle choice is a trade-off between edge durability and ease of cut might make me decide to change for example the angle I sharpen a Plane Iron to. In other words – no real point to the comment other than to help the algorithm spread the word…



  31. DRD63 on August 2, 2023 at 4:59 pm

    Ok James l"ll promise to Rex krueger out @25 degrees. Except for one bench chisel I have ground @ 17 degrees. All soft 🪵 is easier to chisel at 17 degrees. A Rob Cosman tip that works great.



  32. MetalWoodWorker on August 2, 2023 at 4:59 pm

    You’ve just inspired me to stop using my veritas (waste of money) sharpening jig and just free hand it cause it doesn’t need to be perfect.



  33. Bargle5 on August 2, 2023 at 5:01 pm

    I’m going to go with the 25 degree for everything when I do my ‘sharpen everything in the shop’ project in the near future. Good to know that won’t handicap me terribly. I also gave the vid a like.



  34. Benjamin Adair on August 2, 2023 at 5:01 pm

    Great video!! I used to measure & sweat & resharpen once or twice oh boy this won’t work more time on the stones than on the wood. I use the Canadian method with a south Texas Coast twist and it works great. Put an edge on get it on the wood it will cut if it’s not the best edge work with it do something different the next time you go to the stones. Great video keep them coming.



  35. chagildoi on August 2, 2023 at 5:02 pm

    Comment down below



  36. Jonas Sjöblom on August 2, 2023 at 5:03 pm

    Amazing video again as usual! I usually just try to restore the previous angle when grinding my tools. But now I’m motivated to give it a second thought next time!
    I got another idea for a video, maybe you already made one. About predicting grain direction. It can be quite tricky and often I have to make a wrong cut before I turn and go from the right direction. Especially around branches, where the grain go towards the knot on one side and away from the knot on another. Or when the plank don’t follow the grain perfectly etc.



  37. john j on August 2, 2023 at 5:03 pm

    "Strop making sense" David Byrne



  38. Dennis Wòjcik on August 2, 2023 at 5:05 pm

    thanks, that was very helpful like most of your videos. I did read Prof. Wright somewhere down below and in deed I feels like attenidng a lektur watching your videos, except that I m not bored and I do actually learn a lot.



  39. HdtvTh on August 2, 2023 at 5:10 pm

    I do about the same thing, put a 20 something degree angle with a grinder then free hand whatever angle i need with a microbevel. I do have one problem with bevel up planes tho, aren’t they just a dumb tool? I see only negatives, the angle is too low and the edge is fragile, and at the same time the angle is not really that low, a regular bevel down plane with a 30 degree bed is way lower angle than a low angle plane.



  40. STEG on August 2, 2023 at 5:10 pm

    Brilliant, now I can get on with actually making something.



  41. Lincoln Dickerson on August 2, 2023 at 5:11 pm

    Well explained. Thank you



  42. Darin on August 2, 2023 at 5:11 pm

    good job



  43. Tayyab Safdar on August 2, 2023 at 5:11 pm

    Loved the way you explained about the hands knowing the angles and need not worry about the protector degrees.
    That’s my way, forget about elaborate arrangements, my hands and eyes know what my mind want them to do and see.



  44. Lincoln Dickerson on August 2, 2023 at 5:11 pm

    Waaaaaaiiiiit! You can’t be done?!?!… What about back bevels and Charles Worth an his ruler and bench grinders…. nevermind, I have things to do in the shop.

    By the way, that shirt is literally my favorite because their are so many who have no “i”dea what it means.

    I used to have a shirt with Maxwell’s Equations on it. I always knew when I walked passed another EE. They would smile, or shake their head, or point and snicker. Nothing better than the geeky inside joke.



  45. Cubic5 on August 2, 2023 at 5:12 pm

    If you use a big enough mallet the chisels never get dull.



  46. The Ginger Drum Tech on August 2, 2023 at 5:13 pm

    Fantastic video James



  47. Lincoln Dickerson on August 2, 2023 at 5:15 pm

    Thanks for the redirect



  48. Neo Anderson on August 2, 2023 at 5:16 pm

    Good James! One of the better videos on this topic. I wish you had put it out a few years ago.



  49. Lincoln Dickerson on August 2, 2023 at 5:16 pm

    🤦🏼‍♂️Micheal and Gabriel 😂😂😂