Essential Woodworking Skills – Japanese Saws 101, Tips, Tricks and Buying Advice
Essential Woodworking Skills – Japanese Saws 101, Tips, Tricks and Buying Advice
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In this woodworking skills video we cover Japanese Pull Saws 101, tips, tricks, dozuki, ryoba, flush trim and kataba. I go over basic use techniques and some great tricks to getting the most out of your saw. Thanks for watching! Please like, comment and subscribe. Cheers!
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Folding Dozuki (Dovetail): https://amzn.to/2II3Iul
Dozuki (Dovetail) 9.5”: https://amzn.to/2IEiaDp
Dozuki (Dovetail) 8”: https://amzn.to/2DZ6PPM
Dozuki (Dovetail) 6”: https://amzn.to/2DZ7yR0
Folding Ryoba (Double Sided): https://amzn.to/2yejoAv
Ryoba (Double Sided): https://amzn.to/2ybZ82z
Kataba 10”: https://amzn.to/2OAUYeN
Flush Trim: https://amzn.to/2DWJKgv
Handmade Flush Trim: Try Ebay
Cheap Flush trim: https://amzn.to/2NlASR6
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Essential Woodworking Skills Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13FPTSA4pdo&list=PLWpKyJXgeoFFaP3lBBaxU8eIpmSQwIyoF
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Woodworking Joint of the Week Playlist: https://www.youtube.com/playlist?list=PLWpKyJXgeoFGIa10WFuigwV3EE57MvXDS
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Some of my other videos I think you’ll like:
Essential Woodworking Skills The Jointer: https://youtu.be/13FPTSA4pdo
Joint of the Week – Castle Joint: https://youtu.be/sEp3N2AH5qk
CNC Dovetail Alignment Board: https://youtu.be/x18iMQPByZs
Essential Skills for the Router: https://youtu.be/2YaHMNeZrDc
The Ultimate Router Jig: https://youtu.be/6rYWWrGOfKI
Essential Skills For Superior Accuracy in Woodworking – Tips and Tricks: https://youtu.be/goUc74RQRus
Moxon Vise Video: https://youtu.be/pMpqhpgxzPE
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JAPANESE HAND SAW TRICK EVERYONE SHOULD KNOW:
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Tools I love:
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My Favorite Dozuki Saw: https://lddy.no/stit
My Favorite Ryoba Saw: https://lddy.no/stiv
New Flush Trim Saw: https://lddy.no/stix
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Whiteside ¼” shank Spiral Upcut Bit ⅛”: https://amzn.to/2LDw6S1
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SUPER MEGA FLUSH TRIM BIT ½” Shank: https://amzn.to/2LyH1wr
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45 Degree Bit I Like: https://amzn.to/2JRNNII
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great info Jonathan
Love my ryoba! (By the way, it’s pronounced ree-yo-ba, not rai-yo-ba). Nice video!
I bought 2 off your links. I hope you get a kickback!
Thanks for walking me through those cool saws.👍
Hi Jonathan! I watch your videos for quiet a long time. I got a lot of useful tipps for me. I’m looking for a new Ryoba-style saw, because my atual one is from a very cheap local discounter and after training a lot with that saw, i’m ready for the next level.
I’m interested in tha folding Ryoba from Suizan, but because of the fact, that i live in Germany, i didn’t mangae to finde a seller here. Your amazon-links won’t work for me, because there is no shipping to Germany. Maybe you have an idea, where i can get a Suizan saw.
Best regards
Holger
Great video but do you know why I can’t order it for France shiping???
Did you drill holes in your saws to hang them?
They may be cheap upfront, but I’m hard pressed to go full in to Eastern saws when I have to replace the blades and within 3 blades being replaced I could have bought a really nice western saw and just resharpened teeth when needed
Wow! Very nice video, as always.
Is super informative. Now I know which saw I should use depending on what I want to do.
Thanks a lot for another great video!!!
Also you use your large muscle groups for your force vs small muscle groups with western saws
Which one would be best for long cuts? Kataba?
So if Japanese saws aren’t good for Ply or MDF, what would you recommend a western?
Man I love it when I find a new channel that looks this good…
That thin kerf saw took 30 pull strokes to cut 3/8” deep 😂.
Interesting! I own both Japanese & Western style saws. I love Lie-Nielsen joinery saws and I have a set of the Japanese saws when I work outdoors. They’re fast and easier to start.
The Japanese saw fad has become as overdone almost as the never ending plane fetish some have. Japanese saws are okay, but I have been working with wood – doing everything from room additions, porch and deck construction to making some great furniture and cabinetry – for around half a century. I never owned a Japanese saw. If you have one, fine. But why are they all the rage these days? They are hardly an essential.
If you could only have one………_______________?
Would you recommend a Dozuki for cutting splines or can a ryoba work just as well?
Great video, very informative, thanks!
can you talk about that lil’ vice bench thing?
You’re cool dude
Jonathan have you have cut dovetails with out a Katz dovetail guide, David Barron in UK said cutting dovetail s with out a guide is not easy nice saws you sold me very nice.
This is really awesome, thanks for such nice video.
I’m fairly new to woodworking and am glad I started with Japanese saws. The decision was pure monetary but now I couldn’t imagine using traditional saws.
Jonathan, I bought a Harbor Freight Japanese pull saw a while back and really like it. I do have an issue though it seems to take longer than expected to saw something especially after watching your video ok n Japese saws. The reason I like it is I can use it in my living room without making a b I g mess.
I need an all around cross cut and a rip saw in one blade and not expensive. What do you recommend?
I’ve watched a good few videos on making dovetail joints, and I am wondering how many people have done the same, and then gone ahead and bought a Japanese saw? ANY Japanese saw? Because I think you are the only person who guided us towards an appropriate choice. Looking through the comments, I see people from all over the world who are benefiting from your help and guidance, and that is very cool. I’m a retired engineer living in New Zealand, and I am discovering the joy of working with wood. I have one of your guides on its way, and have ordered what appears to be the right Japanese saw for cutting dovetails, and you can bet I am excited to try them out.
Can any of these saws be relied upon to cut a tenon shoulder through Doug Fir without loosing teeth? I’m doing everything right, and I still lost a tooth on a dozuki on my first tenon. Gods help me if there is a knot lurking anywhere. The western carcass saw I have is more robust, but a bit harder for me to work as a beginner. It can also be re-sharpened or even re-toothed with a few file strokes. I really like the pull stroke, though. I’m torn.
After using a Japanese saw, I came to detest western saws.
Just started using these saws. threw away all my western hand saws. Half the time I prefer them to electric for my 2 by 4 cuts on short framing jobs. the ryoba is my go-to for everything on trim now. it has made molding and trim a snap and im never ripping my hair out about miters anymore. Clients LOVE that I use them and seeing the results. Using the reflection is a new technique i appreciate you teaching.
Why don’t they turn the teeth around on American saws? I do not get it.
Well, I was looking for a basic overview of Japanese pull saws and this video gave me what I needed to know. Great presentation. Thank you kindly! Peace.
Cheers bud thanks for the awesome video.
This will replace my old american hand saw, of which i just busted the handle off…
I used my set of these for the first time today, they are soo damn good!!
Jonathan, if you finish your cut with the handle up and blade down, if you hit the bench it is the end part of the blade that hits, not the teeth. Not sure if that’s good form, gut it’s saved me a few times.
I’m a chef and a woodworker… let’s talk about blades and handles all day!!
Yes! I have had 3 Japanese saws for many years including a folding pruning saw.
You don’t have to explain having multiples, especially with imported tools… I keep a stock of Vessel 300mm JIS #2 recess head screwdriver bits so that I am never without one. I think the most notable feature of Japanese tools is that, culturally, the Japanese are process-oriented, and they design their tools to be pleasurable to use. Thank you for the fantastic video; I am waiting for a Kataba to arrive to cut some burls!
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find a partner who looks at you the same way katz-moses looks at his japanese flush-cut woodworking saw
I know it’s not the same before anyone tells me but I’ve been making them for years as a hobby . Loads of people carpenters including have my saws . I don’t make money out of it because they supply the saw and the wood for the handle but to put it in simple terms I take the handles off ordinary jack saws and turn I around . There’s a bit more to it than that but it’s basically it
How do i keep my cut going straight and square …?
So which one do i use to resaw wood like a 4tpi western handsaw?
They look cool too
Ryoba = Ree-oh-bah
Sorry, I’m particular about Japanese pronunciation.
Very informative video, though. I’m getting into Japanese woodworking, but I don’t know much about woodworking in general. Just the basics from hanging out in my grandfather’s shop as a kid. The Japanese are amazing craftsmen, so I figured I might as well go that route.
thank you Katz
Since I tried my first Ryoba (a cheap one, too) I’ve hardly ever used my Western saws. Even a klutz like me gets great cuts with Japanese saws.
I Enjoyed this video. Thank you!
i want to ask you…if you have a ryoba,why do you need a kataba for?they have ryoba with agressive teath patern.does it perform different than the ryoba?or what is it?
The thing I love about Japanese saws is that they finish a cut like they were actually designed to do so.
Hi Jonathan, thanks for the quality content 👍🏼. Do you think you can use ryoba saws for dovetails if on a budget and just want to start with 1 Japanese style saw?
Mmm yes… dovetail sauce
Thanks to you I am finally becoming more serious with the cuts I make for my artwork chassis’. I used to use a standard Craftsman miter saw but I doubt i’ve made one cut in all my years of using it that are as nice as those blades. Definitely making the switch. THANKS!