Harbor Freight's Dirty Little Secret – How Their Tools are so Cheap and Which Ones You Should Avoid
Harbor Freight's Dirty Little Secret – How Their Tools are so Cheap and Which Ones You Should Avoid
Harbor Freight has a secret. This secret is the key to how they are able to make and sell their tools so cheap. When you understand how it all works, you will know what tools you should buy from Harbor Freight and which Harbor Freight tools you should avoid.
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Hello:::: A $10.00 Side grinder, I got more than I paid for. I had it 10 years. If I had a Business Garage I still buy H F $10.00 side grinder. I can get 9 of them for price of ONE DeWalt. If I get 9 years out of 9 H F Side Grinders and 4.5 years out of ONE DeWalt I WIN. I bought 3 set vice grip. I had my Kubota bucket and chain around largest Grip. I bent top jaw 3/4 inch side ways. Manager got new pack gave me the large Grip and said if you bend that one tomorrow bring it back, I’ll give you a new one !!! I guess I have spent $1500.00 since they open about a year ago. I also got the one year $29.00 Discount package. I took that when I got the 220 Mig Welder. The Chinese tool are better than they were 40 years ago. Well some of them.
I have a chicago electric 10" miter saw that is still going strong. I got it on a $74 coupon years ago. I did alot of work on it to square it up initially and its been a surprise. I personally think alot of people abuse their tools or use them beyond their design and thats why they fail. I am allways mindfull that its a cheap saw and treat it carefully and its payed off. I will gladly buy from them!
Just don’t waste your money on a generator. Garbage.
I have A Daytona and a low profile jack which work great. As far as most of there other items many are OK, but there not meant for daily use. Stuff like sandpapers, cutting wheels, grinding wheels are garbage. Sockets are knuckle busters. There good in a pinch, and for tools you are only using occasionally.
Bought a earthquake Xt electric impact ratchet several years ago. It works fine and has held up well, but even though it says it has up to 60lbs of torque, the "up to" is the operative phrase..if you expect it to produce about 30lbs of torque and hand turn it to break bolts and ensure they are tight it works fine-just know its limitations and that you aren’t getting 60lbs of torque out of that ratchet-ever. It is good for light work makes turning bolts/nuts in tight places when working on vehicles easier. Ill second what most others have said here I have some HF electric tool s that have out last many of my name brands like the angle grinder and reciprocating saw. Other items have been junk that busted on first use. Generally though the wrenches and sockets have been fine with the exception of the ratchets. Its a great place to go get the tools needed for a one time project that Im confident I wont need again-and just be pleasantly surprised if I get several uses out of it. I shop HF and have had some good finds there, like others have said, as long as you know what your buying and why its a good resource when you need something.
You make a compelling argument Dave and I wouldn’t argue against you. How did you acquire this knowledge? Are you an industry analyst?
Got a welder for Christmas about 7 years ago…thing still lays beads till this day!!!! 😂
They will give you a warranty but also charge ridiculously high restocking fee! Bought a generator that was Advertized to be super quite and it sounded like a freight train! Took it back and they wanted 80 bucks to restock!
Got tone if crap from HF. Buy smart, most power tools will only last one job. But all in all, love HF
This guys video promoting Harbor "FRIGHT" tools, and yes I spelled it correctly. A fright to use. The tools are hit and miss. Mostly miss and are just expensive one grade above "toys". Correct again, toys. The toys from HF are mostly one time use, and if you get that much out of them.
As an 30 year engineer, mechanic the only time I would think of HF is desperate need. In other words. I’ll never miss Harbor Fright tools.
I have always looked at an extended warranty as a companies lack of confidence in their product.
I bought a demolition/rotary hammer drill from Harbor Freight 10 years ago and have never had a problem with it. And I have drilled a lot of holes in concrete. From 1/2" to 1 1/2". Which is why I bought a drill press from them and it too works great.
I buy sledgehammers from harbor freight.
Even serious mechanics go to these stores to pick up small items. The other items are basically for first timers doing something around the house. I bought a generator from harbor freight I got it home and it would not start. I was told to drain the gas and I did I took it back and they would not return it because inside the gas tank was moist. I had to take it to another harbor freight and all he did was look at it in the box and gave me my money back.
bought tools for 20 years they all still work. They are not always cheap price wise! I don’t buy any warranty and don’t like up front money for club crap.
If you want crap that will break and is actually more expensive than real hardware stores then go to harbor freight but if you are not a complete moron shop elsewhere. Seriously the bullshit lie that harbor freight is cheaper yea just shut the fuck up with that lie. Go to Ace Hardware or Lowes or Home Depot and get yourself a set of wrenches for $10 while that same package of wrenches at Harbor Freight is $25. Harbor Freight lies about being cheaper. Harbor Freight sells a tape measure for $15 when everyone else sells that exact tape measure for $8. If you want to spend double to 2.5 times the amount you will spend at a real hardware store then go to harbor freight. I bought a box of hose clamps from harbor freight and every single one of them snapped instantly. I was trying to attach baskets to the basket rack of my bike and that should not have allowed them to snap. Harbor Freight has a strict no returns not even with warranty because the warranty is a well a haha we tricked you into thinking a warranty actually works. Yea they are fucking assholes. That box cost me $15 fucking dollars. I will never go back to the shithole known as Harbor Freight. I should have gone to Ace Hardware. So Ace cost me $4 for a box of 30 instead of box of 6 hose clamps. Ace has far superior quality and its less expensive than the dumpster fire known as Harbor Crap.
All tools in US are made in China ,Korea,Vietnam,Thailand. If you want a good quality tools you must travel to Germany , Japan , Italy or Mexico .
*Professional Mechanic daily use// Lasted 8 years or more: Daytona and Pittsburgh Jacks, Daytona Jack stands, MM Impact sockets, Box Wrenches, Steel Carts, US General Tool carts, nitrile gloves, 4 lb hammer, 4 lb dead blow hammer, Pittsburgh pry bars all sizes, CE car polisher, punch and chisel set, 4wheel dollies with handles, Ball Joint Puller set, 1/2 extendable 72 tooth ratchet. 3/8 72 tooth extendable ratchet, 1/2 inch breaker bar.
*(Items that didn’t last more than a one time use or one year): 1/4 72 tooth ratchet, 1/4 extensions, low end cordless drills, braun lights, plastic air blower gun, Pittsburgh Serpentine Belt wrench set, fiber glass sledge hammer, pick set.
harbor freight is my go to store for anything without a cord.
I bought a hardwood floor nailer at Harbor Freight years ago…. I did 3/4 inch hardwood in every room in my 2600 sf house…. and every room in my sisters 2200 sf house … it worked great without any problems….it more then paid for itself….. I also bought sockets and drill bits that failed with little use…. so it all depends… just like he said…. I still love Harbor Freight for some items….
I purchased an 18 inch Poulan chain saw that only started once
Dude! you have no clue 😢
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no I already knew. I have written on harbor freight tools and the store before
Back in my days, buying tools for myself started in 1994 at SEARS, because "CRAFTSMAN" is what a Man bought back then.
I have experienced a 40%/60% split on the tools/hardware offered at HFT. About 40% is great, "BUT" the remaining 60% of what the store is selling is PURE CRAP…
I love buying De walt tools , they may be expensive but boy do you get longevity and service from them.
I agree, every tool I have bought there has been a joke and Home Depot isn’t any better on anything then maybe margin food.
In order to get the free item you have to pay them $9 a fucking week to be put upon the special list. You could do the $7 a month but then you can only use 2 coupons a month but the $9 a week will allow you to use all coupons. They removed the ability to access coupons in the mail. You can not and for the last 4 years get coupons via email and email requires you to sign up for a special plan. The plan costs a lot of money. Harbor Freight also makes a lot of money buy charging slightly less for an item that you can get a far better quality for almost nothing more at other hardware stores. Harbor Freight will sell you a saw for $1000 but you can a far more powerful, far better, far superior, with far better cutting ability, and made from far better materials to make it last for $1099 from other hardware stores. Yes its cheaper but fuck cheaper when its shit quality and even with the warranty that may cost you $300 you will still end up having to replace it in 2 months and oh yea the warranty does not do shit. Yea read the warranties and laugh your ass off at how the warranty does not cover anything and is basically a bunch of garbage words that mean literally nothing and does not allow you to replace the item. Yea so the item you buy cant be replaced nor repaired and you then are out $1300 in only a couple of months. Hell their safes yea um quality is to put it bluntly to break into those safes is really fucking easy. All you need is a sing nail and a hammer to knock the hinge bolts out. Yea your suppose to put the hinges on the inside not outside. With the gaps on the sides of the doors you can stick the larges of crow bars into it. The lock itself can either be smashed into the safe or ripped out and sense their is a gaping hole on the other size of the key pack in reality just take the key pack of and you can pull basket balls threw. Basically it has so many security failures to call it a safe is a fucking insult to safes. Also they have 0 requirements to work for them including the fact they hire meth addicts and the craziest of bastards or also child molesters. The place has no quality control not even for its staff members. Hell they will even hire under age minors. They also do not train their staff and that saves the company large amounts of money. They also under pay their employees.
When I took woodshop in high-school, everything the school had was Central Machinery (Harbor Freight Brand). Then after graduation, I wanted a woodshop of my own, so I started buying equipment. My first piece, I still have, it’s a Delta Bandsaw. Since it was fairly expensive, that meant my woodshop wouldn’t happen overnight. Then I discovered Harbor Freight when I lived in Arizona, and every third week, it seemed you could get any type of saw for $20.00. This was back in Y2K area. The Central Machinery tables saw did last for 15 years without issues, then 5 years before I gave up and got a Craftsman table saw to replace it. Also all the other Harbor Freight equipment got replaced with Ryobi, Delta, Rigid, or Craftsman. As you said, ‘Alot of tools are made by the same company, ‘ because all 4 of those are owned by Black and Decker. My Ryobi miter saw has an accurate cut, and my Chicago Electric one from Harbor Freight doesn’t. However, the Chicago Electric one does have more torque. Then I will agree that Harbor Freight is good for first timers, but would suggest the pawn shop as well. I’ve found alot of stuff at pawn shops that were good deals. Like a Sears Roebuck router for $20.00. I too love to browse Harbor Freight, but for quality, I may put Hypertough ahead of them.
bought a cheap headlamp there and the area that held the batteries was too small to accept batteries. took the item back and was told that they messed up on that item. but they still kept selling them.
Definitely buy the upgrade especially the welders. Now that I’m retired HF is my choice.
Yeah poor quality that way Sears stopped selling Craftsman and now you can buy Craftsman tools at all Lowe’s home improvement stores
Dave – Thank you: This video is priceless!
After buying a variety of stuff – and talking to several other customers – I came to exactly the same conclusion as you:
(1) No moving parts: Don’t buy any product at this store that has moving parts. The parts will stop moving. I have seen too many people returning items that they said "broke the first time they used them."
(2) Nothing safety related: If you’re buying a car jack, or jack stand, or a car ramp, invest in a quality product from a quality store. ( = Go elsewhere.) The ass you save may be your own.
(3) Reviews: Their reviews are total BSh_nonsense. Scroll thru a few reviews and you will see that Harbor Freight writes (or bribes) their own reviews. You don’t even need to look at the reviews’ content: Every single product has thousands upon thousands of 5-star reviews. That is statistically impossible.
I paid for an annual membership for me & my kids: We will never get our money’s worth out of it.
Thanks again for this awesome video.
Hi my Centech brand auto starter charger was my worst experience
I have had failures, but considering The number of HF tools I have purchased that failure rate has been surprisingly low. I know you are busy, but I would appreciate any information you could provide or opinion concerning their automotive electronics tools, this is a hobby of mine since I was an engineering major.
The power tools always break,,the motors are really bad
yOU KNOW WHAT YOU ARE BUYING AT HARBOFREIGHTTOOLS FOR THAT CHEAP PRICE SO DON’T WHIN WHEN IT GO OUT.
I set myself back due to self caused circumstance and lost all of my tools id accumulated and Harbour freights kept my vehicle running, house in shape and welds welded after getting straightened out lmao. Anyway its a great way to get what you need until you can go from good to better to best and then you can graduate to whatever name brand your pockets want haha. Fr tho with the Pittsburg lifetime and the low cost of especially the lowest end corded tools which are alot more stout than i ever predicted its a no brainer. Even without warranty its worth it if you know youve got a good one soon enough. If i use a jigsaw for a hundred projects and it dies it’ll have paid for itself 30 fold by that time. The jigsaw blades and cutting wheels and flap disks are of unrecognized quality as well and dirty cheap against the competitors. I love you hobo fright
well yeah, same deal with Walmart or Amazon, a lot of things at both of those places are bad enough but good enough to pass QC
I know you said no to their jacks but in my experience harbor freights hydraulic tools and jack stands are excellent. I have a jack from them that ive used professionally for 8 years and its going strong. I keep it greased and fluid up though
The only HF item I ever had that was definitely inferior was a backpack weed sprayer. It pretty much disintegrated after its first summer.
Not nearly as cheap (money wise) now days as even just a few years ago…
Nice job on the video! And based upon the number of comments, it looks like the content inspired a flurry of feedback. You drew us in with the American Rejects song title, then captivated us with your enthusiastic presentation. It reminded me of Mike Meyers’ online CompTIA computer classes. And I agree with your assessment of the Harbor Freight approach; they keep to their core mission of selling "cheap" tools. Talking with experienced contractors, they will take pride in their arsenal of high-end, name brand tools of the trade, but admit to picking up a Chicago Tools angle grinder for the dirty work and write it off as disposable. Personally, I stick to the consumables like sandpaper, tape, tool bags, or zip ties and avoid the power tools. And I’ve purchased several Haul Master pieces over the years which have served me well. The staff is always helpful, directing me to the proper isle or offering up coupons when I don’t have them. But with most of their products scoring high marks in the reviews, I question that process.
For power tools, I typically buy Dewalt at HD.
But, there are many things I get at Harbor Freight. I disagree that their floor jacks are dangerous or untrustworthy. Nobody with half a brain crawls under a car with just a floor jack holding it up. I jack it up, but quality jack stands under, and then lower the vehicle on the stands. THEN I can crawl underneath to do what I have to do.
As target is to walmart
Harbors fright is to "?"
Possibly Home Depot, some would say lowes. I’ll go to both. Don’t have the card just need tools
I buy old tools cheaper. EBay and the local flea market
Dave, you are an awesome spokesperson impressive. You do not look like quite like a Brian Williams, just sort of make a watcher relax- you are one of us, and clear great word delivery…You have a future!!!
I’ve had no big problems with any tools I’ve bought from them. I’ve had a few fall apart after I totally exceeded thier expectations. I have a Chicago brand 6- 12 volt battery charger for over 20 years from them, use it all the time , still works great. Sometimes it’s a ‘Hit or Miss’ gamble. I’m a backyard mechanic, so their tools are fine by me. I will admit I have craftsman sockets and tools that I got in the ’70’s, quality is a smart choice when thinking long term. I bought a couple if cheap 10" wheels and put ’em in a gokart, they folded like paper plates !🤣
What do you want for $7.99……😃
They are crap
Their 3/8" drive angle head impact (really more a powered ratchet) is so handy for salvage yard drivetrain pulls my bro leaves his Milwaukee at home and I also bought one (we hunt LS engines for resale). They stay sold out. (I had to get mine via Ebay.)
It’s easy to find out what works and what’s trash but HF in 2023 is far different than ten years ago. Sears should have done what HF did instead of burning down the company to sell off the land.