Reviewing my Favorite Table Saw | 1908 Fay & Egan | Engels Coach Shop

Reviewing my Favorite Table Saw | 1908 Fay & Egan | Engels Coach Shop

My 1908 Fay and Egan, 16 inch, dual arbor, sliding table saw is a classic foundation to my carriage and wagon shop. I’ll show you how I maintain the babbitt bearings, how a dado head is accommodated and why I don’t use the original blade guard. This is a classic in high precision vintage table saws.

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50 Comments

  1. David Freiman on January 25, 2022 at 11:47 pm

    Replacing the original 5 HP motor with a 10 may seem inappropriate, however electric motors are quite different from engines in that they only put out the power that is asked of them. Also there are modern contactors with solid state overloads that are adjustable. No cooling required.



  2. Michael Hughes on January 25, 2022 at 11:47 pm

    That is a really cool machine.



  3. Solo Traveler on January 25, 2022 at 11:51 pm

    My gramps was a carpenter for over 60 years, in fact he was working in his shop the day he died from an aneurism, still had all ten fingers. All of my gramps shop equipment was home built as well, definitely no guards and would absolutely terrorize any woodworker these days. I have his lathe and have used it once or twice just so I can say I’ve used it. I spent twenty-five years in safety, I am in fact a retired OSHA inspector for the Department of Defense and have an advanced degree in aerospace engineering. I have in my twenty-five years of Service investigated thousands of mishaps ranging from simple broken fingers to multiple deaths accidents and every single one of them was operator error, lack of situational awareness and failure to recognize the dangers involved in the task. All the safety equipment in the world do absolutely no good if the operator has no respect for the equipment he or she is working on.

    I love this channel, learn something new every time a watch another video.



  4. Julius Jaranilla on January 25, 2022 at 11:52 pm

    I dont use guard on my table saw either even tommy mac on tv his table saw dont have no guard



  5. LineshaftRestorations on January 25, 2022 at 11:53 pm

    Old in no way is an indication of its lack of utility. The genius of decades past is lost on many in the present.



  6. Eric Geissinger on January 25, 2022 at 11:53 pm

    What a wonderful old saw. Thanks for the video.



  7. david hudson on January 25, 2022 at 11:54 pm

    Your Saw Run How You Like Got Nipped From Looking Up Never Again Have 10 Too Respect Them



  8. Keith Fink on January 26, 2022 at 12:00 am

    Very much enjoyed this; thank you. Awesome saw, and yes, we can easily see why you don’t prefer the dado blade or the blade guard. It IS possible to use dangerous equipment AND retain all digits. Thank you for showing us all about the saw.



  9. petraone kader on January 26, 2022 at 12:01 am

    Mr dave… 😁😁πŸ’ͺπŸ’ͺ



  10. TheTomBevis on January 26, 2022 at 12:01 am

    You could just be like Norm Abrams, "guard removed for filming". lol



  11. Georges Micallef on January 26, 2022 at 12:01 am

    i love the way you do not hesitate to spend your time to explain to your followers who are not regularly using electric tools that tool guards are often time not so practical and as safe as they pretend. Safety accessories list is too wide to detail here but with or without guard, electric tool utilisation needs a lot of concentration, as we can notice on all your videos, to avoid any injuries. Again thank you for caring your viewers with huge attention.



  12. TheTreegodfather on January 26, 2022 at 12:04 am

    Counting to ten on both hands? πŸ€”



  13. Singh A on January 26, 2022 at 12:04 am

    awesome



  14. Tom Fischer on January 26, 2022 at 12:05 am

    Great video.
    This guy is a master craftsman
    If you think you know more than this guy about wagons, wagon wheels, or big tools for making such things, start your own channel.
    Otherwise, shut up.



  15. Sandy Lebitz on January 26, 2022 at 12:05 am

    I have a 14x60x1" carbide blade , I can’t find anyone who can use it . It came off a lumber yard saw ,they got rid of the saw . Can’t see it going to waste .



  16. Tristin Suydam on January 26, 2022 at 12:06 am

    It looks Like a day just to set it up and oil it lol it’s a really nice saw though



  17. Harvey Post on January 26, 2022 at 12:07 am

    In layman terms guard pain the buttsky..



  18. Martin King on January 26, 2022 at 12:08 am

    Love that cool F&E saw! No need to explain about the guard Dave. I’ve got an 1955 Oliver 260D slider with a better guard and I don’t use it either. Re aligning the sliding table after moving it laterally is such a pain that I gave up on the idea of dado blades and manage to get along without them. Respect the machine and keep your head in the game is great advice. Keep up the great work.



  19. hmbld1 on January 26, 2022 at 12:09 am

    I would think a second table saw set up with a dado blade would speed things up for you.



  20. Gerry Phibbs on January 26, 2022 at 12:11 am

    Maybe there’s a feature on this saw that you forgot to show us Dave? How about the ability to brew up a nice pot of coffee, and cook up a decent breakfast of sausage and eggs? :: grin ::
    Nicely done sir, I’d be jealous if I thought I could make good use of a great saw like that one!



  21. John Spathonis on January 26, 2022 at 12:13 am

    Hi Dave That saw bench is great. I have a feeling you don’t like dado or trenching blades for some reason. A resourceful guy like you would have just ganged up a number of modern tungsten saw blades with thin spacers. For a small job it is not worth the trouble of swapping out the blades but for a large job a 25mm wide cut would speed up the process. Cheers John



  22. Robert Thomas Mein on January 26, 2022 at 12:13 am

    Love that sliding table, but I’m with you 100% on the dado set and blade guard. Don’t use a blade guard on my modern saw for similar reasons. It does take concentration and extra caution to saw safe, but blade guards can also give you a false sense of safety.



  23. Ted Hewitt on January 26, 2022 at 12:15 am

    How about adding oil cups to the bearing lube holes? You could pack some felt into the holes loosely to keep dirt out.



  24. Bill Morris on January 26, 2022 at 12:19 am

    Good afternoon from St John Parish, Louisiana 11 Dec 20.



  25. Jim Radz on January 26, 2022 at 12:20 am

    Dave, all that guard contraption without the guard would make a good camera holder? Keep on keeping on.



  26. Karl Benedict on January 26, 2022 at 12:23 am

    What a nice saw, I love old machines. It’s kind of amazing that you still have the guard.



  27. Hj K on January 26, 2022 at 12:23 am

    Good good



  28. Jesse Denning on January 26, 2022 at 12:24 am

    Awesome old saw. Only one I have ever seen.



  29. Ernest on January 26, 2022 at 12:25 am

    I guarantee if you took a screwdriver he would notice it was out of place



  30. Mike Miller on January 26, 2022 at 12:25 am

    Guards have there place but only if they are designed well for the task. I teach my sons to follow well thought out safe work practices and they will become a safe habit. I’ve known of people who have used a particular tool for years without injury then one day they have an accident and hurt themselves. It’s only later we find out they were talking chances with their safety for years and got away with it. Then their age caught up with them and reduced reflects couldn’t save themselves. Good safety habits will protect you even if the guards fail.



  31. James Pearson on January 26, 2022 at 12:26 am

    I have guards on a lot of things but not on my table saw… were close to the same age and I still have 10 fingers…. Cool saw! love your work….



  32. Horace Rumpole on January 26, 2022 at 12:27 am

    Interesting saw! I have a tilting table saw as well, mine was made in Switzerland. For ripping long bevels the tilted table is a real advantage .
    Do you have a splitter on that saw? Mine does, and it is a great safety feature. As a side note, there was a company of that era called Huther Brothers, that manufactured saw blades; they also made a blade guard on telescopic arms that bolted to the ceiling over the customer’s saw.
    I have an early Huther Brothers catalogue illustrating this device.



  33. J McCracken on January 26, 2022 at 12:28 am

    That saw has been around since 1908 wow if it could talk just think of the book it could write.



  34. Johnny Rossman on January 26, 2022 at 12:28 am

    Very enjoyable video & beautiful old machine, thank you for lifting the hood! Really enjoyed this. Would enjoy other vids on the tools in your shop as well, maybe I missed them though? Either case thank you for sharing



  35. Tim Barry on January 26, 2022 at 12:29 am

    What a great saw. Thanks for posting. I’m surprised people ask you about a guard.



  36. Mark Koons on January 26, 2022 at 12:31 am

    Thanks for the tour. It feels like a comprehensive assessment of these legendary machines.



  37. Michael V on January 26, 2022 at 12:33 am

    Seems like the guard was an afterthought.



  38. Roger Shoaf on January 26, 2022 at 12:34 am

    Dave,

    I have had the pleasure of using the same saw, and found it to being a joy to use.

    I especially like the fence and the way it adjusts. Modern designer’s should take note of the ease of this.



  39. SDRail Fan on January 26, 2022 at 12:34 am

    That is a great table. I agree the guard is dangerous. You have the right attitude, keep your head in the game and pay attention to what you are doing. I run my saws without a guard also as they get in the way and make doing many tasks more dangerous. Keep up the good work.



  40. bgdavenport on January 26, 2022 at 12:36 am

    Wonderful saw! I’m with you when it comes to guards and swapping out dado blades. Unless I have a tremendous amount of dado work, the time spent swapping out and setting up the dado is not worth the trouble.



  41. Mark Gillett on January 26, 2022 at 12:36 am

    Have you done any rebuild of the table slide-ways or have the babbitts been repoured?
    http://www.vintagemachinery.org/mfgindex/detail.aspx?id=305
    I don’t know if you know of Keith Rucker but he runs the above site and rebuilds vintage metalworking machinery as a hobby and is on youtube



  42. Iron Clad Ranch and Forge on January 26, 2022 at 12:38 am

    Somehow I missed this video when it came out. I’ve been around and used a lot of antique machinery in my life and I’ve got to say that is the nicest old table saw I’ve ever seen. What a beauty!! Looks like you take great care of it as well. Made to last !!!



  43. KLAUS REVIEWS CRAFT & RESTORE on January 26, 2022 at 12:38 am

    counting to ten on both hands……wow…you got 20 fingers…..



  44. David Prince on January 26, 2022 at 12:40 am

    What is the tool that you measure wheel circumference called?



  45. Bigmo Rivera on January 26, 2022 at 12:41 am

    Waoo 1908 That’s Awesome Some Table Saw Thank You For Sharing And Stay Safe… Can You Find Parts For Fay & Egan Like The Belt…



  46. Ian Zainea on January 26, 2022 at 12:43 am

    Geeze, everything used to be made in ohio. This saw says Cincinnati. in the earlier episode when you had the book aboutt wagons, the "Democrat" shown was made in Cleveland. Damn Ohio… πŸ™ I wish that we were still the center of the world.



  47. William T. Musil on January 26, 2022 at 12:44 am

    Hiya Dave



  48. Harvey Post on January 26, 2022 at 12:45 am

    Cheap skate no practical yes..



  49. 40cleco on January 26, 2022 at 12:47 am

    That guard is where it should be…on a shelve. I cut my thumb half off on a old 1940 something saw…my fault, not the saw. I have a modern saw now and it has modern guards, which I don’t use for the same reasons given in the video, it’s in the way. To keep your fingers…PAY ATTENTION.