Unboxing New Stanley 60 1/2 Sweetheart Low Angle Block Plane – A Review

Unboxing New Stanley 60 1/2 Sweetheart Low Angle Block Plane – A Review

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Ben Crowe at http://www.crimsonguitars.com loves his hand tools and in particular old Stanley planes. He has been intrigued by the new range of planes being made in Mexico. They look to be aimed directly at the middle market in between the cheap barely functional fare they have made since the 2nd world war, and the high-end hand planes and tools made by the likes of Veritas and Lee Nielson.

So, we ordered a new low angle sweetheart 60 1/2 block plane and this is the unboxing, a review, and, sadly, a fettling video as the sole needed flattening, and in the end, Ben had to sharpen the blade.

Chapters
0:00 Introduction
4:12 The reveal
10:04 The review – black marks – the sole is not perfectly flat at the mouth
the name stamped and not engraved
finish in places not satisfactory
18:44 Ultimately a little disappointing but the plane is substantial and the blade good
19:44 Work to be done – file corner and front edge, and flatten the sole
20:15 Using granite lapping stones to flatten or level the sole and filing the sides
28:41 Cleaning the grease from the mouth and sharpening the blade
31:03 Replacing the blade and checking the plane on a piece of figured Maple
38:09 For the money the plane passes. Comfortable, weighty, and an improvement over
Stanley’s budget planes
41:37 Conclusion
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50 Comments

  1. tob2wood on June 23, 2022 at 9:32 pm

    got one and thank you for sharing how to setting up

  2. insanegeniuses on June 23, 2022 at 9:33 pm

    Thoughts On Hand Plane Sole Flatness –>
    http://www.handplane.com/66/thoughts-on-hand-plane-sole-flatness/

  3. Ray Tillman on June 23, 2022 at 9:34 pm

    The Modern Stanley Sweetheart range are not premium tools, they are mass produced and the quality control is awful. Saying that i have just bought a new Stanley 9 1/2 block plane(not SW) and i have the same problem. Every Stanley plane i have ever owned(i’m a retired Chippie so i have owned a few)has needed fettling , mainly getting the sole flat, Record planes are a bit better, but not much. Unless you are buying premium planes like Veritas or Lie Neilson you will have some work to do, its Parr for the course i’m afraid.

  4. J-man72 b on June 23, 2022 at 9:35 pm

    Picked up a Stanley no. 9 1/2 block plane with adjustable throat at an antique shop last year, rusty and neglected, I’ve only done a preliminary cleaning and it’s looking better, I think I’m going to leave most of the patina on the non working surfaces due to it’s age, which is from my research is from the 1920’s, it was missing the lateral adjustment, and I did find the correct looking part on ebay, total cost is about $35 USD, lovely little tool.
    Looks like this one https://vintagetoolshop.com/collections/block-planes/products/vintage-stanley-fully-adjustable-block-plane-no-9-1-2-20812

  5. Jlm Foy on June 23, 2022 at 9:37 pm

    I bought a Stanley 60 1/2 ( not a s/h ) what a stupid thing to do! I tried to throw it away but the sole was so bent it kept coming back. So far I have 3 hours and counting trying to flatten the bloody thing, it has become a quest. I should have sent it back straight away, but people tell you all planes need a little work and now it has had so much work I doubt they would accept it. So please people don’t buy new Stanley planes if you want to preserve your sanity.

  6. amalia adriana on June 23, 2022 at 9:38 pm

    i buy one one month ago ,dont have de problems you saythey fix all that

  7. Lewis Way on June 23, 2022 at 9:40 pm

    I Just picked up a Stanley 12-138 Bailey No.9-1/2 Block Plane. I put in a little set up work and it works great. Also I think they were listing to you and laser engraved the side of the plane now instead of ink stamping.

  8. Bill Anderson on June 23, 2022 at 9:42 pm

    I have some old Stanley block planes (and bench planes) and as you do, I love them. I think however, I am going to invest in one of the new Stanley 601/2 block planes. Even if I have to tweek it, no big deal.

    Thanks so much for the video!

  9. Headknocker on June 23, 2022 at 9:48 pm

    Very disappointing..
    Just not good enough..
    Not for 80-90 quid..

  10. John A Guentner on June 23, 2022 at 9:49 pm

    After watching you struggle just to take it apart, I lost total interest.

  11. Green Building on June 23, 2022 at 9:50 pm

    36 dislikes maybe came from Stanley Staffs and their workers.. it might be.. but i think this is fair and comprehensive review eventhough the video has long duration

  12. adam toth on June 23, 2022 at 9:52 pm

    Just got this plane. My cap won’t even come off unless I loosen the screw… anyone come up with q good solution to fix the cap not coming off?

  13. Andrew Schrotenboer on June 23, 2022 at 9:53 pm

    Still have yet to purchase one of the newer Stanley planes, but after seeing this, it is giving me some hope in them. Like you, I prefer the old tools. Still slowly warming up to their newer/younger counterparts.

  14. spencer graham on June 23, 2022 at 9:55 pm

    I’m just going to leave this little piece of wood working heaven just here chaps…. Prepare to wipe your chins…. http://www.bridgecitytools.com/default/tools/planes/block-planes/hp-9-block-plane/hp-9-dual-angle-block-plane.html

  15. wiremup48 on June 23, 2022 at 9:55 pm

    May I ask what type paper you are using to level out the bottom? Thank you

  16. Lane Romel on June 23, 2022 at 9:55 pm

    I do not get your surprise, Stanley has been the worst of the worst for over 40 years.

  17. Mark Jarman on June 23, 2022 at 9:56 pm

    I’ll stick with the old ones. Great review thanks

  18. I Builded That on June 23, 2022 at 9:58 pm

    Great video…

  19. Mike C on June 23, 2022 at 9:58 pm

    LOL! That’s only a tenth of a mil per language!

  20. Mike Havstad on June 23, 2022 at 9:59 pm

    Outstanding. Easy to understand and follow. Thanks.

  21. Tyler Moore on June 23, 2022 at 9:59 pm

    "Made in Mexico" 🙁 🙁

  22. B L on June 23, 2022 at 10:01 pm

    What grit did you use to sand the bottom of the plane?

  23. Barbara Maj on June 23, 2022 at 10:03 pm

    Half of the instruction book is lawyer talk and denouncements against suits. It really does not carry "information" any longer. I noticed this on the latest Ruger I bought. Mostly it contains "common sense" rules of thumb (like, never use this as a letter opener, or point barrel away from YOU while loading…) that if not followed or known, you have no business using such a tool.

  24. SEVERINO SILVA on June 23, 2022 at 10:04 pm

    É MAIS FÁCIL PUCHAR A LÁMINA APÓS O GIRO DA TRANCA.

  25. Roy BAILEY on June 23, 2022 at 10:05 pm

    The name is etched on ,which is not as nice as the older Stanley’s .

  26. David Shirk on June 23, 2022 at 10:06 pm

    My goodness!
    This is, without a doubt, the most comprehensive plane review I have ever seen.
    Thank you!

  27. Peter on June 23, 2022 at 10:07 pm

    so a 0.05mm feeler gauge only just about went through? my god man, if thats what gets you dissapointed! plenty of aerospace components for wings wouldnt even be toleranced that tightly. I like your attention to detail for sure, but I think its overkill for woodworking and for the price point. I personally wouldnt be dissapointed with that level of flatness out of the box and not at 80 pounds.
    whats next.. taking all our tools for CMM analysis? you may get the bottom lumsden ground or surface ground and even then you might not get less than 0.05mm flatness.
    with the natural instability of wood for it to shrink and contract, even if you had that perfectly flat on the sole, the wood would negate the difference with its own movement over time, by a larger margin I would imagine too.
    I like your channel by the way, so this isnt just trolling, just good out and out counter debate with you and enjoying the technicality of what you’re trying to achieve.
    (long time aerospace engineer, short time woodworker)

  28. Arthur Jackson on June 23, 2022 at 10:07 pm

    Great review, thanks. I picked up the standard angle plane from my local woodworking store at about 50% off. It was the demo model. I wasn’t considering it due to the aluminum cap iron and thought the rest of the plane must be poorly made. I took a chance and I was quite surprised when I got it home it really is a good plane, not premium but good. Maybe I’ll go into business making brass cap irons and replacement bearings for these.

  29. labrat7357 on June 23, 2022 at 10:08 pm

    I received today a Stanley 60 1/2 Sweetheart block plane and either unfortunately or fortunately it was damaged when received, probably in transit.This means I am able to return it to the seller through the eBay system. I was able to examine the plane and was appalled by the sloppy fit of components and the complete lack of care with its design and manufacture. This plane. It may be a mid price plane but is definitely on the lower end for quality.I collect block planes and the Chinese made block plane copies of the 60 1/2 Stanley are twice the plane that the sweetheart is. They are well made with beautiful machining. The machining is superior to that on the full size premium block planes from Lie Nielsen and Veritas although the overall finish is not as good as the premium block planes. Having said this I still want an undamaged Sweetheart as it is part of the block plane history or at least a testimate to the declining quality in manufacturing. All the best

  30. Scott Siejkowski on June 23, 2022 at 10:09 pm

    To be honest, I don’t want a Norris type adjuster. Just my personal opinion.

  31. Владимир Лебедев on June 23, 2022 at 10:11 pm

    Good rubanochek, in Russia they are expensive ☹️

  32. Bussotti Guitars on June 23, 2022 at 10:12 pm

    the older 60 1/2 was light years behind the new one except for the blade.

  33. 55vdub on June 23, 2022 at 10:13 pm

    im surprised you didnt remove and clean the adjustable toe before you flattened it.

  34. Robert Cornelius on June 23, 2022 at 10:13 pm

    My second comment: The plane itself is good, but its the lousy cap. It is machined out of cheap aluminum. The adjusting wheel already has slop in it, so I can only imagine what it will be like in years to come. I did a drill out and a nice repair, but since Stanley never called me back I’m not discussing how I repaired the cap.  And I did buy both types of the low angle planes, and yes, I’ll be doing the repair to both of them.

  35. MrMeanderthal on June 23, 2022 at 10:14 pm

    there is no need for bottom to be "perfectly flat"… Japanese, many European, and most hand made planes are made from wood and are nowhere near as "flat" or as "stable" as cast metal planes… FACT!… if your bottom is perfectly flat ( 1/10,000 ) of an inch over entire length of sole and you set the blade to make a 1/1,000 inch cut then start cut your rear part of sole (behind blade) will be 1/1,000 of an inch above the surface of the wood you just planed a shaving off… as you move along the pressure you are pushing will press the rear of the sole to the fresh surface and now the plane will be "tilted up" at front of sole.. there will only be two places where the sole is actually touching the surface, first is just before the blade and second is the back end of sole..

  36. Lbhunter63 on June 23, 2022 at 10:14 pm

    If you don’t want to have to fettle a new plane, you’re going to have to buy a lie-nielsen…Stanley just won’t do…just sayin

  37. Walter Rider on June 23, 2022 at 10:14 pm

    thank you Ben. i was shocked at the plane not being right out of the box, sad to see ar what 80/90 pounds ?

  38. 800lb Gorilla on June 23, 2022 at 10:17 pm

    The lettering on the side, of mine at least, is most definitely laser engraved. Not stamped with ink.

  39. Randall's Got Wood on June 23, 2022 at 10:17 pm

    Enjoyed the video, helped a lot

  40. Wa Weekenders on June 23, 2022 at 10:17 pm

    Return it

  41. Robert Cornelius on June 23, 2022 at 10:18 pm

    Well, well, well. And I thought I was the only one pissed off after buying these new block planes from Stanley. The black woman on the phone from Stanley said I would have new parts sent out immediately. Well, its been almost two months. Change the name of Stanley to Laurel and Hardy Tool works.

  42. Aydın Uğur on June 23, 2022 at 10:18 pm

    çok boş konuştun

  43. Cedric Lemaitre on June 23, 2022 at 10:18 pm

    TY for a video!

    Do you have the price for this block plane?

  44. Hudson on June 23, 2022 at 10:18 pm

    I got this plane as a gift and im not sure if im just a noob or if i have a real problem. I have the blade inserted bevel up as it should be and the depth adjustment wont allow the blade to extend through the mouth until it is fully out, and then it is just barely put with the mouth fully open. Ive attempted to adjust it but i cant seem to fix the issue. Any suggestions?

  45. Daniel Bonner on June 23, 2022 at 10:19 pm

    Theyll rebel and be accountants with no tattoos. Awesome lol

  46. Nick Vitale on June 23, 2022 at 10:20 pm

    Your passion is contagious! Thanks for a great video.

  47. MrShobar on June 23, 2022 at 10:21 pm

    I suspect that the plane was not fully assembled when the sole was finished at the factory. The tension that is applied by the component parts (as you stated) are what pull it out of flat.

  48. Kewl Beans on June 23, 2022 at 10:26 pm

    i hate power tools. the noise they make really just makes me insane. 🙁

  49. Andrew Urig on June 23, 2022 at 10:26 pm

    Paid $82 for one of these a few weeks ago. Waited 2 weeks for it to arrive. The sole was not flat in either direction, multiple parts were loose/wiggled, that I felt ought not to be loose or wiggling, namely the female threads. It adjusted horribly. I think Stanely has sold out to China or something. Last stanley I’ll buy.

  50. manos3790 on June 23, 2022 at 10:26 pm

    the most efficient, ergonomic and most delicate planes I’ve ever seen in action on YouTube are the ancient Japanese wood planes, known as ‘Kano’ planes I believe?
    Other planes worth a mention would be Spitfires, Messersmidts, Boeing’s and Lockheed’s Blackbird…..lol, lol

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