Testing The Cheapest Bench Plane On Amazon
Testing The Cheapest Bench Plane On Amazon
Testing the $20 Stanley 12-404 No. 4 bench plane. Stay tuned for more videos covering preserving, modern homesteading, food storage, off-grid, and family vlogs.
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"GENTLEMEN???"…Did not realize woodwork was for men only…hmm…
Price?
I know I’m 2 years late, but try out the Grizzly 10in Smoothing Plane on amazon. Its around $37 and it is awesome.
can you only use water?
I have a draper plane like this. It’s so fiddly to get the blade to cut evenly.
By any chance did you learn to sharpen by Paul sellers 😉
I got a vintage boxed stanley no4 for £20. I guess that was a bargain 😎
Takes some of the sting out of the Rob Cosman dovetail saw import costs 😭
I bought one of these from a big Box store. Your video is fantastic!
I have seen old glass do that before where it’s all fat at the bottom lol such a fascinating thing really
Thanks for making these. I wasn’t taught all of this as a kid. I had to learn all of this so I am grateful for you to make these.
Did you really just compare and criticize a $12 hand plane to a $300 Stanley SweetHeart……
In 3 years time, that Stanley plane has gone up to $29.50!
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Thank you for this video!! I have had a plane in my kit for two years now, used only like once because I couldn’t figure out why it wasn’t cutting well, and it turns out it’s the Stanley SB4. No wonder I was so frustrated with it! I received it at the beginning of my woodworking journey, so I didn’t know it needed so much tuning. I’m gonna fix it up!
That "cheap" plane costs 50 euros here in Belgium 😥
Theres original glass windows in some old quaker meeting houses in Bucks County, PA that have noticeable bulges on the bottoms from gravity over three hundred centuries. No buildings that old on the west coast. 👍🏼
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How did this compare to your Stanley Sweetheart plane?
Check Rex Krueger’s review: he removed the pair of adjusters and adjusted the blade as you would on an old wooden bodied one, by tapping with a hammer. It worked really well, but he used two hammers and tapped the iron with a metal hammer to lower it or to get lateral adjustment and the tote or the front handle with a hide hammer to raise the iron.
I understand that back in the old days, the Carpenter used his wooden mallet and tapped appropriately on the body of the plane.
And you know what? -it worked and was far easier than using the adjusters!
You got tips that other guys didn’t share… The glass with and WET AND DRY sand paper… DOH.. and where to get the glass. Removing the wire. Trying the right and the left side of the blade.
Most other guys do bevels on the blade, so it is less cutting on the right and left to reduce the gouges.
Other great tips from other guys:
Don’t sharpen where you do your work.
Don’t catch a falling blade.
For ones that have chip breakers there is a twist technique so we don’t damage the blade when we put it on.
Using a marker to figureout where it is grinding.
Honing guide and angle jigs for some work is nice.
Specificly how to lock wrists to keep angles when freehand sharpening, and work bench height.. (kneeling on the floor works, having the bench high is bad)
One of the coolest tips was a guy who used a dedicated belt sander and a jig of his own design to really quickly get the blades close enough to do stones on.
. Of note, with my cheap blades I had to use really course sandpaper to start. (like 80, then 150 then 220) Then I moved to 600, 1000 and then 6000. (water stones) I’m not sure I got it right.
I’ve spent hours and hours researching what to do. I was frustrated and we bought a book.
The accessories like a shooting board and all that stuff, and a good bench are also pretty important.
Thanks for the video.
1st off The Glass is too thin, it will flex
Swinging back through this series. Really enjoyed this type of content on the channel and glad these vids are still available.
Don’t forget, if you’re on a budget, look at the second hand market. You can find some good quality stuff on there. All you have to do it to give the tool some love and elbow grease.
Thank you so much!
About ten years ago, I bought an unbranded variant of the old timey N⁰ 4 for $25 AUD (about $12 US). Upon buying it none of it was square, the blade wasn’t true and the threads were… not good. The sole had a hollow some 2mm deep and looked machined with a gravel footpath.
I think I spent a few days working on it, sanding the frog flat, squaring the sides and blade, flattening and smoothing the contact patches, working the threads with oil and ensuring the edge was sharp.
Sure enough, my cheap knockoff plane works as well as any great plane and shaves Australian hardwoods like Spotted Gum and Redbox like it was pine.
I just got first cheap plane, and yes it is bad, but i find out the is easier to start wet sanding with P100. Paper quickly worn out but it cut fast, I think 4 piece will do the trick.
Norm MacDonald has a new hobby.
I have that same plane. I’ve always hated it. I did follow Rex’s video and decide to make it a scrub plane, so it’s in the middle of that. I also have the Stanley Sweetheart #4. Paid 135 for it and would do it all over again, even though the SB4 can plane. The difference between using them is night and day. The SB4 can cut, but it’s just not that fun. The adjusters are jacked and bind and are hard to fine tune. The Stanley Norris adjuster may have some Backlash, but it’s pretty easy to dial it in, and it’s easy to dial it in so it cuts like razors. The SB4 will always just be the Corolla. Basic Transportation.
9:00 pure BS… this legend goes around and around and people beleive in it. "Old man tales…"
We are still in medieval ages… Hopless case.
Old glass was VERY uneven and was installed thicker part bottom to reduce the weight stress in the frame and avoid cracking.
Whoever told it to you knew nothing about the glass. So don’t repeat if you don’t know.
In fact you prove to be quite incompetent.
Rex Krueger did a video on this plane. He completely took off the mechanical depth adjusters and showed how to use a couple of small hammers to adjust the iron. I started using hammers to tap the iron on my block plane that always gave me issues setting the depth, and the tap method works so much better.
What a nob
That is the exact plane I got at Harbor Freight for 13 dollars but it had wooden handles. I got mine dialed in but took several hours to "tune".
thanks wranglestar. unauthorizes sub here. love your stuff. starting to get into woodworking and homesteading
Oh my GAWD! I couldn’t get past all the blathering! Finally got into it at 8:00. Then, more of the same. Too bad.
Does it plane wood? Yes. Then it’s doing its job. Finicky to set up. Yes. Your time, your money, your choice. 🙂
Very cool stuff
We had the cheap Stanley at my old highschool, and we also had a number 4, I used both regularly with many different projects and I can say, although the number 4 was far superior, for 15-20 dollars you cant beat the fact that you can buy around 10 of the cheaper models for the price of one number 4
This is the next skill I’ve committed myself to mastering. Love the channel.
Rex Kruger did a better vid.
JK, ranking videos is stupid.
I still rather buy a used old Bailey pattern Stanley plane. Clean ot up and make a nice user. Still spending about 25 bucks. Plenty available that need some love.
“What this will do here is it will slluucch! It will make it stick” lol I love this channel! It’s the little things that make it great.
Great video. It’s very refreshing to hear someone with a realistic perspective on this. All these forums would have you believe that it’s absolutely critical for you to buy multiple $300 planes first thing or else your entire life will be unfulfilling and you’ll die alone and unloved. Like c’mon guys, the rest of us aren’t trying to make heirloom-grade furniture for a living. Some of us just want to occasionally make functional flat surfaces and the hyperbole about all economically-priced planes being indistinguishable 100% useless garbage doesn’t help and obviously isn’t true. The other classic gem of "just get a pre-WW2 Stanley for $5 from a friend like I did" is even worse — now I have to feel bad about my tools _and_ feel guilty about the modest money that I spent 🙄.
Every review I have seen for this plane is funny to watch, very humorous. They are all swearing, throwing things and turning red before giving up on it.
Your the Bob Ross of woodworking
Loved the video it was so peaceful
Personally, I couldn’t care less what handles are made from. I’m not fussy about stuff like that.
Glass is an amorphous solid, meaning it doesn’t form a particular crystal structure, but it is a solid (does not flow). Also, glass is actually relatively flexible when it is that thin. I discovered this when trying to use a 1/4" thick piece of glass for a reference plane for my CNC. Suffice to say, glass can be deformed substantially under pressure before it cracks, probably something like a tenth of an inch per every 12 inches. Not great for accuracy.
Rex Krueger has a series on cheap hand planes, maybe you should check it out!
I have this cheap one with me. I think it’s ok to use for starting woodwork. Thank for the video.
The thumbnail looks like you have a cigarette in your mouth!
I got to start with a master mechanic