Watch This Before Buying an Expensive Table Saw Blade

Watch This Before Buying an Expensive Table Saw Blade

Can you tell the difference when using a cheap table saw blade versus an expensive one? In this video I will compare an expensive Forrest Woodworker II table saw blade to an cheap Diablo blade. Which one will win?

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0:00 Intro
1:34 Differences in Diablo vs Forrest
3:32 Cutting with a Diablo Table Saw Blade
6:12 Cutting with a Forrest Woodworker II
8:36 Forrest Blade Worth It?
9:22 Which Blade Do I Use?
10:23 Which Table Saw Blade Should You Use

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  1. jt on July 18, 2022 at 10:35 pm

    Yes. The Forrest is worth it. Logic would dictate the Forrest can be sharpened perhaps 20 times, the Diablo is throwaway.

  2. Larry B on July 18, 2022 at 10:35 pm

    I was very disappointed that you did not show the same woods side by side, with close-ups.

  3. Bryan Bahre on July 18, 2022 at 10:36 pm

    These two blades aren’t the same type and application. One is thin and one is full. Your saw doesn’t have enough nut for the good blade

  4. Scott Bionic Nerf on July 18, 2022 at 10:36 pm

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  5. Rick DeFalco on July 18, 2022 at 10:36 pm

    So I’ve been a custom woodworker for 35 years now and the difference between a forest blade and a Diablo is that the thicker kirff forest is that it will cut straighter and dissipate heat better so it will make more cuts before it gets dull. Also you can sharpen the forest blade roughly 10 times at a cost of $20 per sharpening so way better value.
    The burning is caused by the speed that you feed it

  6. Terry Henson on July 18, 2022 at 10:37 pm

    Diablo #1 with me, but im a beginner woodworker.

  7. Jeff Clugston on July 18, 2022 at 10:37 pm

    DIABLO. I’ve used them happily with the results.

  8. LaMarr Neese on July 18, 2022 at 10:38 pm

    Yes the Forrest is worth the extra. I have been using one since 1992 as a hobbies t and have never had to sharpen it. I still get smooth crosscuts

  9. Keith Leonard on July 18, 2022 at 10:38 pm

    Was the Diablo thin kerf? I’ve had 2 wood worker 2 blades that I’ve literally used for 15 years. Fantastic blades. I like Diablo blades as well, but sorry, this is a poor comparison.

    I’m running a pm2000, if I were on a 110v saw I’d probably always run thin kerf, but I wonder about a deflection comparison.??

  10. jeff alan on July 18, 2022 at 10:38 pm

    A quality product is the best alternative.

    Like optics
    Bushnell legends 100 hunting grade
    Leopold the military issue 500 +
    then Leica or swavaroski 2,000 + serious user

    Power tools
    ryobi diy
    Dewalt apprentice
    Milwaukee tie pro
    Makita tie pro
    Hilri expert
    Festool craftsmen

    To purchase a quality over pricey will service you well.

  11. Tom T on July 18, 2022 at 10:40 pm

    I’ve dabbled in woodworking most of my life, but since retiring in mid 2020, I’m doing a lot of it. Most of my entry level machines have been replaced with better quality ones over the past year and a half. Cutting rabbets, dados etc., with an ATB blade always bothered me because of the grooves and ridges profile in the bottom of the cut. After extensive YouTube viewing, I ordered one of the Forrest blades with a flat tooth grind and full (1/8”) kerf, which I think is the same blade you used in this test. The thing cost me $170+, and I was thinking that this thing better be good for that kind of price! It cuts great, nice flat bottom in the kerf on non through cuts, and I really like having a blade that cuts a 1/8” kerf because setups are easier to plot versus the thin cut decimal width kerf. That being said, after spending a considerable sum of money upgrading my shop, I can honestly say that this blade is the only thing I have buyers remorse over! I’ll never do it again, and I’ll never send it back to them for sharpening because, at the least, it’s going to run $50, and the info they send with the blade says that if they have to do “repairs” on things they see as worn or damaged such as a chipped carbide, the price rockets quickly! Yea, it’s a quality item, but $170? I think not!

  12. Terry Pendergrass on July 18, 2022 at 10:41 pm

    I watched another Youtube channel that talked about using that Forest blade for cutting dado slots (still have to run through several passes) but it cuts very square dado slots. Maybe even try a rabbet joint, you’d see the squareness of the corner.

  13. shane marshall on July 18, 2022 at 10:42 pm

    Lifetime – Forrest River blade $150, plus 4 sharpenings @approx $40per = $310. vs 4 new $40 Diablos (no sharpenings) = $160. Diablo wins by $150. AND your blade isn’t in transit half the time. You always have one new blade in the saw. PLUS, at the end, you’ll have four Diablo blades for utility or just buy the second Diablo and have it sharpened while your new one is in the saw.

  14. Ryan Hipp on July 18, 2022 at 10:43 pm

    I feel like the way you were cutting is why it bogged. I have always learned the larger material should be between the fence and the blade, unless the smaller strip is your end workpiece and the rest is scrap. Your saw was working much harder with that strip binding up between the fence and the cut-off

  15. Chris Weigand on July 18, 2022 at 10:43 pm

    yes. accuracy- quality of cut- tear out

  16. John Weber on July 18, 2022 at 10:45 pm

    Apples and not apples, the blades have different specs, so not sure what your test says. For the high end cabinet maker, the Forrest blade is going to provide consistent quality results. The Diablo blades are nice and likely an upgrade for a stock blade on an entry level saw, but the Forrest are of the highest quality, made in the US, and built with longevity/sharpening in mind.

  17. Boris Lum on July 18, 2022 at 10:47 pm

    I am a Diablo combo blade guy because they are sharp: they are thin kerf; they use a very good anti-virbration system (does not ring like a bell): can be resharpened (about $20); and often on sale. Good video

  18. John Edwards on July 18, 2022 at 10:50 pm

    Pocket screws and cheap blades. Sounds about right.

    Next time try something of quality. Like a FS Tool 22250 rip blade.

  19. Andres Cruz on July 18, 2022 at 10:50 pm

    I work at Forrest manufacturing and we do servicing on all blades if there’s not too many broken tips..

  20. Michael Mattia on July 18, 2022 at 10:53 pm

    You are 100% correct on the blade choice when you can buy 4 of the cheaper blades that perform well for the projects you make, I feel like that status of saying "My blades are $150 each" just proves the old saying that a "Fool and his money are soon parted" My dad always taught me do make do with what have. Great comparison!

  21. rickdixontn on July 18, 2022 at 10:54 pm

    Burn marks on a ripped piece of wood are usually due to the fence not being perfectly aligned with the blade. I have been through several low cost blades on my table saw and nothing cuts as consistently clean over time as a Forrest. But it will still leave burn marks if my rip fence is in need of adjustment.

  22. Demon Zerker on July 18, 2022 at 10:56 pm

    The 150 dollar blade is only worth it if it truly cuts well and last exponentially longer than a normal cheaper blade lasts.

  23. Robert Kerby on July 18, 2022 at 10:57 pm

    Excellent job, and comparison!
    Well done!

  24. Keith Kolbo on July 18, 2022 at 10:57 pm

    The burning and resistance you felt with the Forrest blade was in part because your blade was too low. The rake etc of the Forrest is designed for more height. You can read more about burning on the instruction sheet that came with the blade. The rubber coating on the blade teeth is to prevent nicking or cracking the carbide teeth. I did a comparison and the Forrest consistantly gave me a sanded smooth edge. The Diablo was ok, but just not as smooth. Thanks for the vid.

  25. Christian L on July 18, 2022 at 10:58 pm

    Hi, I am just curious, when changing your blade you seem to struggle because it is so tight , are you raising the blade all the way to give yourself more room to maneuver when removing the nut?

  26. 731 Woodworks on July 18, 2022 at 11:00 pm

    How to clean your saw blades:

  27. Sandy Madden on July 18, 2022 at 11:00 pm

    I will not use a forest blade. I’ve bought one at a wood show in Indianapolis a few years back. It never lived up to even my lowest expectations. Not worth it even if it were the same price as my Freud or Diablo blades.

  28. Alan Mydland on July 18, 2022 at 11:00 pm

    12 inch carbide blade 25 bucks, I have run a bunch with no problem. Made in China of course, I’m happy

  29. ianpin100 on July 18, 2022 at 11:00 pm

    gotta agree with a few of the comments pointless test without the same TPI

  30. Mike A on July 18, 2022 at 11:02 pm

    Diablo blades have there place and they are ok. I use them on my Miter saw. But Forrest blades are far superior. I never use anything but Forrest blades on my delta table saw. I use full kerf blades and they don’t bog down the saw at all. I love these blades and have used them or 35 years. They are worth every penny.

  31. woodensurfer on July 18, 2022 at 11:02 pm

    Rip with a rip blade, not 60T ATB. Try Freud 24T flat top for ripping to compare with Forrest.

  32. David Morgan on July 18, 2022 at 11:05 pm

    When comparing tear out, it’s not really a fair comparison between a 60 and a 40 tooth blade.

  33. Dennis Young on July 18, 2022 at 11:05 pm

    Yes, the *Red Devil* blades! (Freud also does an industrial flavor, about 30 – 50 % more than the devils)

  34. the desert workshop on July 18, 2022 at 11:05 pm

    To me it looked like the kerf of your blades were different. The Forest is taking a lot of wood out at one time (better for more hp saws) The Diablo was taking out less wood… The thin kerf will help when you only have a 2hp saw or less. This is why I bought the Spyder blade rather than the manufacture blade. Thanks for doing this video!

  35. Razme209 on July 18, 2022 at 11:07 pm

    It will be better for sure but is it worth it? Depends on what you are making I guess.

  36. Randall Dellwo on July 18, 2022 at 11:15 pm

    Now let’s see you crosscut with both blades. Bet the more expensive blade destroys the cheap blade on that test.

  37. binder730 ochsenbein on July 18, 2022 at 11:15 pm

    No buy 4 Diablo blade for that price

  38. john on July 18, 2022 at 11:15 pm

    I enjoyed your video. My reason for buying expensive blades like the Forester is because there sharpenable. If you signed a Diablo off to be re sharpened the person that gets it is first going to laugh and second do a minimal amount of sharpening. Diablo and other blades in that price range use thinner carbide with a much looser grain structure. They really aren’t meant to be re sharpened. When you look at the cost of sharpening the Forester makes much more sense. It’s a tougher Blade with better carbide. Sometimes the old adage is true! You get what you pay for

  39. M L on July 18, 2022 at 11:16 pm

    As a rank amateur, I think I’d rather see this done with identical blades just because I don’t know what I don’t know about a number of things mentioned in the comments by others. I think the last blades I bought were Dewalt, and they seem to be working quite well. I am going to try the Diablo next time around. Thanks for the review though. It has caused me to look more into what makes one blade better than another, as well as the various uses they are suited for.

  40. Rod Cox on July 18, 2022 at 11:17 pm

    I’ve been running the Forrest Woodworker II on my tables saw for years. I own 2 and when they are both dull I send them to Forrest to get re-sharpened. So they are great blades and in a real apples to apples test they will likely outperform almost any other blade on the market. Last time I sent them out I also sent out my Festool Kapex blade which was an outstanding blade. When it came back it cut like shit. I contacted Forrest and after a bunch of excuses they told me to send it back to them (on my dime no less) They sharpened it again and sent it back to me. It did cut better than last time, maybe as good as a $10 blade…. they ruined it. I complained expecting them to reimburse me for the blade they ruined (also a $150 blade) and all I got was them to drop what they charged me to sharpen it. So I’m no longer a Forrest fan but still run 40 tooth combination blades in the $50 range. To be honest they cut great and there just isn’t enough difference to justify the cost and the headache of sending them out to be sharpened.

  41. Sophia on July 18, 2022 at 11:19 pm

    Sorry stopped watching the moment i heard tooth count difference

  42. MixingGBP on July 18, 2022 at 11:22 pm

    Did you change the riving knife? Was that a good thing or bad thing? I believe the knife needs to be wider than the body of the blade, but narrower than the kerf.

  43. David Clink on July 18, 2022 at 11:22 pm

    My search was for a combo blade that also leaves a flat bottom for rabbits. Still looking. However, I agree with Diablo choice. I bought a circular blade sharpener at Harbor Freight and it works fine. Did friends 10 & 12" blades and mine and it paid for itself. Expensive blades may run truer but the difference between accuracy and precision in woodworking is arguable. Machinist need precision to 3 or 4 decimal points. Not woodworkers. Woods expansion across grain proves that. Often consistency is more important than accuracy, as with table legs. I run a stabilizer and my Diablo blades and they are smooth or smooth enough.

  44. Juan Landa on July 18, 2022 at 11:22 pm

    From a cost perspective you’re not wrong. I get that point. For me it’s like disposable work gloves, nothing wrong with having a fresh pair more often. Why purchase gloves that last a lifetime that you have to maintain and clean. I didn’t like how there was not a control in your video- it wasn’t even a psuedoscience. But your wisdom is correct when it comes to price.

  45. Scott Bionic Nerf on July 18, 2022 at 11:22 pm

    Um..?! ‘Dang!’ 3yrs ago, before I got into the hobby, I bought DeWalt Job-Sight Table Saw for $50.00+ some much needed engine parts I was truly thankful to part with, from one buddy, who’d just got a bigger new Delta. I drove my truck to work the next day, and another work-buddy saw it in the back of my truck, appearing barely used(yes, I had cleaned the crap out of the evening before, and thrown a tarp over it because I had another buyer in mind.(It’s called ‘horse-trade’n for a reason.😎) I sold it for $250.00 with a 3 day old Diablo blade! $200.00 dollars profit and I’d never even plugged it in and turned it on. Though, I’d love to have one like it now😟. I still sold it for $50.00 more than I was gonna originally. Anyway, I’m on the Jesus bus, but there’s no way in hell or God’s green earth I’d give a $150.00 for saw blade that from your test, doesn’t handle pine that well. You may have addressed breakout when cutting small trim pieces, while my mother-in-law was talking in my other ear. Seems like a greater number of smaller teeth provides a smoother cleaner cut, the trade off is it cuts much slower. This is true with my Jig-Saw.

  46. Shannon Walker on July 18, 2022 at 11:23 pm

    I’ve come to the conclusion that laser cut blades no matter the price are a bit better then stamped ones

  47. pab77777 on July 18, 2022 at 11:29 pm

    For me, Diablo is high-end. I’m not buying a $150 blade. Would have liked to see a comparison using the same teeth count. Would also like to see a comparison between the cheapest blade on amazon and Diablo. Thanks for your videos

  48. Thomas Boyd on July 18, 2022 at 11:33 pm

    What wax do you use? Paste wax

  49. Mike on July 18, 2022 at 11:33 pm


    You are both correct and incorrect at the same time as far as which blade is better.

    I worked in a shop that built very very high end doors (mostly doors, some cabinetry). These doors were solid mahogany or walnut, 1 1/2" – 4" thick. No pocket holes with these, all mortise and tenon. Each door was around $3000 on the low end and on average about 30 of these doors went into ONE house.

    The tablesaw we used was a huge beast. The whole table itself moved, so instead of you moving the workpiece through the blade, the workpiece layed on the table and the table moved the workpiece. It’s probably a $60k tablesaw.

    Point is, the saw had a beast of a motor, very very strong horsepower.

    I promise you, you never saw a Diablo blade or any box store blade on this thing.

    That is where using a high dollar blade comes into play. They are heavier blades, thicker and more robust. The teeth are going to last much longer and keep their sharpness longer and are made from a much higher grade steel. That is what you’re paying for with those blades.

    Typically, you’re NOT going to use a blade of this caliper on a Delta, DeWalt or any "contractor" type tablesaw BECAUSE these saws lack the horsepower to spin them "properly". The weight of the blade will bog down your saw, spin the blade slower which in turn, as you noticed, will burn your wood. That’s why your Diablo blade did not burn the wood, it’s thinner, lighter and spun faster. They are specifically designed to be used on "contractor" saws.

    So, as I said, you were both right and wrong. The $150 blade is a better blade, just not with "your" saw. The Diablo blade is a better blade for your saw.

  50. J JC on July 18, 2022 at 11:33 pm

    What about non through cuts, how’s the dados?