Woodworking hand saws and how to use them
Woodworking hand saws and how to use them
woodworking hand saws and how to use them. Rob Cosman shows you why you neew hand saws even in a power tool shop and how to use them
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Really enjoy your informative videos and think your saws and marking guages are superb. Thanks.
Just something about using a good hand saw,, always loved, even as a youngster. Plus my ears dont ring after I’m done. Good show Mr. Cosman, always a joy.
With many power tools, both corded and battery powered, people forget about these hand tools. But when you have to use your own muscle power you learn little subtle lessons. Is the blade clean, sharp, teeth set correctly? If it is binding use some wax. Take that knowledge to the power tools and things will be easier.
Fix your headline.
Great video Rob. I have a couple of pax saws, rip and crosscut, but more aggressive 5tpi rip and 8tpi (I think) on the crosscut. I don’t have a table saw or bandsaw so I cut everything with them. Just recently ripped a single zebrano board into 8 1.5×2" pieces that were about 6.5ft long. Great workout! Took around 20 minutes per rip, so an afternoon really to get all my stock cut. It’s for a clothes drying rack, and it’ll likely take me a few months to complete as I’ll revisit it every so often, so in the scheme of things, the sawing isn’t really adding much to the project. It’s very satisfying too, when you get a straight and accurate (ish!) cut consistently.
Since Lie Nielsen is no longer making those saws, how about some Rob Cosman panel saws?
I love use rip saw Rob and guys
Thanks for the tips! Rob, on the top of those saws in your video, near the front of the plate, there appears to be a cut out. Does that have a specific function? I’ve been planning on getting a better panel saw soon. Right now I just have the cheap big box store style.
Great tips, especially the one "if you can’t break it, there is no end checks".
Thanks! Ive been trying to train a family in how to use hand saws, and thogh totally ignorant(father, too!), the boys(10 and 8) are psyched(siked)about being able to take a saw into the woods, far from electricity and any cutting they want to do! Just a funny note: the boys put their thumb sticking out as I instructed, but their hand is far from the saw blade, doing NO GOOD for starting the cut!!
Familiarizing myself with and eventually purchasing a panel saw has been near the top of my todo list for a while. Thanks for this video, super useful!
Lie Nielsen no longer offers panel saws. What saws as a replacement would you recommend?
Rob, I know you really like to show off your joinery, but for those of us that want to build something with a more subdued aesthetic, maybe you could show us even just once how you’d do a full-blind dovetail, and perhaps a blind wedged mortise & tenon? 🙄
Hey there pal, I LOVE my hand saws big and small! Not many people realize what a good set and sharp saw can do easily, most people’s only experience is a dull old one in papaw’s garage!
Great video! Those saws are not used often but when they are this video has explained how to use them effectively. Some one should make saws like that with smaller teeth to get started like your dovetail saws.
Thanks for sharing!
thanks
Such a pleasure watching a craftsman at work with economy of motion. My rip saw has disappeared but my tenon and cross cut saws are over 100 years old. I love them 🌞
Thanks you very much 💓
I have my great uncles rip hand saw and my grandfathers cross cut and my dads hand saws. I have been teaching my son to use them before he gets power tools.
I looked and I didn’t see any panel saws on Lie Nielsen but some others are selling the Pax line of saws made in the UK. And I keep one of the fire hardened tooth saws in the truck for trips to the lumber yard.
Thanks for doing a lesson on the often ignored panel saw. As a hobby wood worker I prefer using hand tools. A panel saw has a real place in the hobby wood worker shop. Question. I note you use a 12TPI Cross Cut and a 7TPI Rip. Why? I currently have a 12TPI Rip and am looking for a good, old Cross cut. What are the ins and outs of TPI selection for panel saws. Most of my backed saws are 12 TPI because I find its fine enough and yet still sharpenable with the poor selection of files these days.
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I love using panel saws! Granted I got a small shop but my grandfather loved doing everything without using power tools, always told me to appreciate craftsmanship. I use a couple power tools but I love the feeling of hand tools and hand saws
There is absolutely no table saw that sounds as nice as a hand saw😉
Any chance you guys will come up with your brand of hand saw to complete the saw line?
I agree, But being a wheelchair I can not use my knee. Darrell
Great tips! I like to break down large heavy boards with hand saws since they are awkward to carry around. I don’t use my western style panels saws much anymore since I really enjoy using Japanese pull saws. I like the pulling action of the Japanese saws more than the push of western panel saws
when will we see a RC panel saw?
Is there somewhere I can go to see or purchase plans for building your collapsible saw bench?
I saw the triangle on the cabinet below the planes and got so excited thinking that MAYBE Rob was dovetailing a Flag display together with 45° bottom angles!! So I hurried over to the newest Online Workshop. I paused it on a shot of the back cabinet and zoomed in… 😔 It was just 90° example dovetail.
Lol. 😂
Maybe someday he’ll close one of those up with 3 sides and show us how to make 45° dovetails. 😉🙏
Here’s to hoping for Flag Display video.
What is the name of the hand saws that you are using?? And how could I get a hold of the manufacturer to buy them
Masterful tuition – only possible with experience. Do you think "speed, not force" would summarise saw skills? To go fast, you need little friction which means you are doin’ it right, but If you get a lot of friction, you’re doin’ it wrong.
Got myself an brand new sandvik from the 80s of eBay …scared to use it now hahaha 🤠
I’m old enough to remember the use of hand saws myself. In fact, if you want to buy another one that’s bigger than 22" long. They’re very very hard to find!! A full size saw that is. So I’ll take my dad’s and sit down and sharpen every tooth, reset the kerf and hang it on the wall.
Dear Rob, your session reminded me of my father who was a carpenter years back. He used both the crosscut and rip cit saws generously. In my view no power tool can replace the work done by hand tools.Great tips
Good stuff! Enjoyed watching. Thanks.
I am heading out to build a bench like that TODAY! Thank you!
Rob, do you have a video for that workbench? I’d like to build one like that.
I suspect why old saws seem more comfortable is because they usually have smaller handles. Men seem have grown taller and bigger than was the case fifty or a hundred years ago, perhaps because of diet. I’m 5’ 9”, a tradesman – a plumber – and have a couple of old saws. I one case the first owner stamped his initials and last name on the saw, so I looked up his date of death which was in the early 1980’s . It fits my hand like a glove, while a recent modern saw purchase from a Sheffield maker has space for a larger hand than mine.
Pura vida Rob I love use my handsaw everything I can use them I love the feeling of use my technique and muscle to cut lumber without power tools 🙂
If you don’t have a saw bench you can still rip long boards using an overhand grip on a taller bench. It’s very comfortable, conserves energy, and surprisingly accurate.
I’ve gotten so used to Japanese pull saws that I find it awkward to use a Western push style now. My panel saws are pretty much decoration hanging on my shop wall.
About 40 years ago I bought my first cross cut hand saw…a Sandvik…it was beautiful…it had one annual job of cutting that little bit off the Christmas tree trunk before bringing it into the house and setting it in the stand…love that saw! Lots of Christmases later, I finally refinished it and pretty much brought it back to its glorious condition. Think I might give it a go on some other cutting tasks. In the meantime I have hanging conspicuously behind the bench! ( just above the charging station…yup…circular saw…battery operated)…
I like the options…sometimes power…sometimes not!
Thanks for this lesson.
Now that Lie nielsen is not making panel saws, what is a good brand to acquire. Thanks
1:58 on the right side, under the socket in the background … is this a sabot round?
That’s not a panel saw.Fix your headline!
Good, good.
That type of saw gets little use in my shop, cordless circular saw and a roofing square, much quicker.
I too like the shorter length of the Lie-Nielsen. You can still find some great Disston vintage saws on the market. They tend to be a little longer with a little taller saw plate. Very comfortable grips and fun to use something that has been around for 100 years. Just to think of all the people who used it before you is incredible.
I used a handsaw alot in my younger years, taught by an old English Carpenter. One trick to finish a notch (birdsmouths, , stringers….) and other awkward situations in was to invert the saw so you cut away from you. Very effective and more natural than you might think.